Herbert: Midland won't be yellow. - Page 2

ASCII Man · 26 Oct 2005, 08:50 (Ref:1443691)

I actually liked the '98 liveries, especially the Jordan one but Williams' as well...
Yellow or not, I still think the Midland car will be a lemon.

Kicking-back · 26 Oct 2005, 09:45 (Ref:1443733)

If Williams have no major sponsors demanding particular colours they should run the cars in dark (BRG?) green and white.

Just like Keke's was.

ASCII Man · 26 Oct 2005, 09:58 (Ref:1443746)

Those are the colors of the Saudia airline company though, unless they want to reminisce of the good days with the Bin Laden family I can't really see it happening.

nau_jr · 26 Oct 2005, 10:43 (Ref:1443799)

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Originally Posted by Kicking-back

If Williams have no major sponsors demanding particular colours they should run the cars in dark (BRG?) green and white.

Why not? Good choice - again with Cosworth engines and Rosberg behind wheel

ensign14 · 26 Oct 2005, 11:36 (Ref:1443843)

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Originally Posted by ASCII Man

Those are the colors of the Saudia airline company though, unless they want to reminisce of the good days with the Bin Laden family I can't really see it happening.

They ought to, they went like a bomb.

(Have we reached the Statutory Limit When Bad Taste Becomes Acceptable yet?)

JohnMiller · 26 Oct 2005, 11:46 (Ref:1443856)

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Originally Posted by Dutton

I find it interesting that Johnny should say the yellow ran for 15 years, when you consider that it didn't.

IIRC (maybe not) 1987 (F3), 1988 to 1990 (F3000), 1995 to 2005 (F1).

davyboy · 26 Oct 2005, 14:54 (Ref:1444027)

I thought the Canon Williams-Hondas of the mid-1980s were the nicest [colorwise] looking Williams of all... Red-Blue-Yellow.

jondownunder · 26 Oct 2005, 15:18 (Ref:1444045)

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Originally Posted by JohnMiller

IIRC (maybe not) 1987 (F3), 1988 to 1990 (F3000), 1995 to 2005 (F1).

Seems about right IIRC, except the F1 cars were only really yellow from 1997 weren't they? In '96 they were gold (or did that change mid-season?), while they were multi-coloured in '92-'95 after the classic 7-Up livery of '91.

Makes sense to get rid of the yellow now, I'd rather fondly remember Jordan for their own achievements.

davyboy · 26 Oct 2005, 15:58 (Ref:1444073)

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Originally Posted by jondownunder

Makes sense to get rid of the yellow now, I'd rather fondly remember Jordan for their own achievements.

That's the real reason for the change. They want to close the Jordan chapter and open the Midland chapter... like BAR after Tyrell or RBR after Jaguar.

mjolnir · 26 Oct 2005, 18:59 (Ref:1444287)

Well, they're keeping the chassis numbering sequence... wonder if they're talking to Colt (the weapons manufacturer) about some sponsorship...

Midland, 16th chassis

aw, the M-16...? ring a bell???

davyboy · 26 Oct 2005, 20:38 (Ref:1444413)

even MI-6... very militaristic no matter what way you look at it. Maybe they should go the whole hog and have military colours too.

Nintendo · 26 Oct 2005, 21:13 (Ref:1444457)

The real qustions is what will williams be.

SpawnyWhippet · 28 Oct 2005, 18:50 (Ref:1446265)

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Originally Posted by davyboy

even MI-6... very militaristic no matter what way you look at it. Maybe they should go the whole hog and have military colours too.

Yup, disruptive pattern or khaki - opens the doors for military sponsorship - is Colonel Gaddafi into motorsport? Uday Hussein would probably have gone for it.

429CJ · 29 Oct 2005, 17:33 (Ref:1446906)

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Originally Posted by Andydickens

,,,opens the doors for military sponsorship...

NASCAR have already military forces as sponsor.

U.S. Army

Air Force

National Guard

Nintendo · 29 Oct 2005, 20:11 (Ref:1447006)

Jordan wasn't yellow for 15 years. I was only yellow since 1997 (8 years)

WebberForWDC · 30 Oct 2005, 11:02 (Ref:1447375)

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Originally Posted by davyboy

Here's one that should have been tabled at the FIA meeting yesterday. Select 12 different colours, one for each team. Then draw lots to determine who got what colour. The team would have to use that as their base going forward :-)

Statisically valid

, no really it is !!!

1 red
2 blue
3 yellow
4 white
5 silver
6 pink
7 orange
8 aqua
9 green
10 black

Draw gives:

Renault = 10 black
McLaren = 6 brown
Ferrari = 9 green
Toyota = 1 red
Williams = 3 yellow
BMW = 8 aqua
Honda = 6 pink
Red Bull = 2 blue
Toro Rosso = 7 orange
Midland = 4 white

davyboy · 30 Oct 2005, 11:21 (Ref:1447397)

It does work doesn't it. I remember going to races in the 1970s [as a kid :-)] and the kaleidescope of different car colors was really nice to watch and easier for spectators too. The FIA should seriously consider it as they strive to put entertainment back into F1.

Nintendo · 30 Oct 2005, 12:45 (Ref:1447474)

remember the old bennetton cars? They were definetely memorable.

luke · 30 Oct 2005, 12:47 (Ref:1447477)

Great shame in my view as the Jordan's were probably the best looking cars on the grid.

**Bononi** · 30 Oct 2005, 14:46 (Ref:1447560)

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Originally Posted by luke

Great shame in my view as the Jordan's were probably the best looking cars on the grid.

Not the last 2 years, but for sure before they always had great liveries.

luke · 30 Oct 2005, 14:56 (Ref:1447564)

Yes, as I said were, for example, 2004 and 2005 they were rather tacky.

davyboy · 30 Oct 2005, 15:11 (Ref:1447576)

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Originally Posted by Nintendo

remember the old bennetton cars? They were definetely memorable.

The Benettons of the 1980s were fabulous, particularly the brush-stroked ones of Fabi/Berger.

In fact along that vein, what I really liked was the Benetton Alfa Romeo's of Riccardo Patrese and Eddie Cheever from the mid-1980s - gorgeous green and red. The Benetton stores had great posters of them on the walls and I remember going into one [I think in Nutgrove] and asking them to remove them all and give them to me... which they did :-)

Also, don't we think its time Martini got back into F1 ? I see Riccardo Patrese's GP master's machine is decked out in their colours and looks so cool.

**Bononi** · 30 Oct 2005, 15:15 (Ref:1447578)

Great stuff. Martini still exists ? Can't remind the last time I saw one ! I've been sober for so long now !

davyboy · 30 Oct 2005, 15:25 (Ref:1447588)

Very much so... they've got a lovely racing web site [if you can manage to get through the beginning rubbish on age etc... Check it out www.martiniracing.com . Super cool stuff !

**Bononi** · 30 Oct 2005, 17:24 (Ref:1447673)

Cool. Thanks !

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