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The NASCAR that splits the race into sections, has competition yellows to close everyone back up and playoffs to keep it interesting to the end of the season?
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4 Apr 2020, 06:14 (Ref:3968525) | #5553 | |
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I thought the BTCC had push to pass already....
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4 Apr 2020, 10:12 (Ref:3968541) | #5557 | |
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Here we go again, they are now a lot tougher on push to pass and have guidelines on what is considered an acceptable overtaking attempt. In the past JP might have got away with what he did at Snetterton last season, but not anymore
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4 Apr 2020, 10:33 (Ref:3968552) | #5558 | |
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Actually, when watching back the old Donington Park races last weekend, I think it was 2012, 2014 and 2018 races, the driving standards were so much better in the 2018 race. The 2012 one had cars punted off everywhere 😂
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4 Apr 2020, 10:36 (Ref:3968553) | #5559 | |
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Indeed, driving standards hit an all time low in 2012. They’ve gradually improved since then, although there is still the odd meeting when things get out of hand, but they are usually the exception
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4 Apr 2020, 14:39 (Ref:3968601) | #5560 | |
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I get the arguments against the "push to pass" system in some forms of motorsport but in the BTCC?
Is it "fair" when a driver overtakes another who is on an inferior tyre or when a driver with 50kg of ballast is left for dead on a corner exit? BTCC is the ideal series for it IMO. Leaving aside the ballast replacement differences in power if driver A finds themselves without boost and driver B goes past them then that means driver A has used their boost somewhere else on track already presumably to gain an advantage over driver B in the first place. |
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i feel as though btcc is a great place to introduce more and more people to having some form of hybrid tech in their cars, particularly if it can relate directly to the way we use our cars now. it relates back to the win races on sunday, sell cars on monday principle - if for example toyota can bridge the gap between uber-tech racing use and road car use via a sport model of a ICE-only car rather than erm, a prius, then it's going to help. |
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Using hybrid technology in BTCC cars as a means to promote road cars is a very relevant and good thing but it doesn't have anything in common with Push to Pass. Hybrid systems could be used differently, as someone has suggested here, and it wouldn't hamper racing product.
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4 Apr 2020, 17:12 (Ref:3968638) | #5563 | |
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It’s something I don’t think is needed, the boost button. If it ain’t broke as they say. But I wouldn’t be against if it was introduced either
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I genuinely don’t see the point in it from a racing point of view.
If two drivers battling use it at the same time whilst battling, it will cancel each other out as neither will gain anything. If a driver behind uses it on a driver in front (who doesn’t use it) well it will be a candy from a baby pass, and the guy in front likely won’t even fight it, so again, pretty pointless. |
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It just becomes part of race strategy. Watch IndyCar races and you'll see some drivers use all of theirs early to gain an advantage, while others save as much as possible to as late as possible in the race to pounce on their rivals.
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I think possibly a few of us are looking at it from a different perspective to the organisers?
BTCC is not a series that has an issue with lack of overtaking, I totally agree with. But, the 'push-to-pass' is not being introduced to give more overtaking. BTCC has decided to introduce hybrid power, and so the 'challenge' is how to introduce it in a way that makes it obvious to the casual viewer that hybrid gives a benefit over conventional power. If all cars had a system that directly complemented the existing drive train continuously, it would be difficult to highlight that in a simplistic manner. This solution means that overtakes can be 'sold' to the viewer as being a demonstration that hybrid is better. |
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That’s understandable, but Le Mans prototypes didn’t work that way. They just complimented the normal drivetrain.
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I wonder though, when hybrid power was first used in LMP, did the series organisers 'sell' the benefits of hybrid in any way? LMP, IMO, tends to be more 'technical' and 'pure racing' in it's followership, whereas BTCC is more 'entertainment' focused. |
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So in case you missed the news, BTCC website has updated the driver and team pages.
http://www.btcc.net/2020/04/04/2020-...ages-now-live/ Good job the season didn't start on time, otherwise this would have been a bit late. Points to note: They had to truncate at least one team name on the index page - "MB Motorsport Accelerated by Blue" drops the 'Square' Carl Boardley's car is missing most of it's sponsors and the rear half of the livery. After an off in testing at Brands Hatch they didn't have time to finish the car before the media day. Most of the photos from the media day show the other side of the car so it all looks ok. |
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Gotta feel sorry for Howard Fuller waits years for another got at the BTCC. Gets a call up to drive the VW as a sub but surely if we get going at all this year he won't get any racing mileage?
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And even if if did, Bushell might have recovered enough to drive the car by the time we race again
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