[BTCC] BTCC 2020 season discussion, News and Rumours!

[porsche962fan]

why not allow Tabacco and alchohol sponsors ?

[mark_l]

UK TV regulations don't allow it.

[porsche962fan]

and can't Lord Gow lobby for this ridiculos restrictions to be abolished ?

[mark_l]

Originally Posted by porsche962fan

and can't Lord Gow lobby for this ridiculos restrictions to be abolished ?

Good luck to him if he can change the TV advertising laws, I also think MSA (or whatever they are called this month) regulations prohibit those advertisers although you'd of thought AG would of changed them whilst he was in charge.

[EastonNeston]

The advertising of tobacco products is effectively totally prohibited in the UK.
There are restrictions on advertising alcohol, and the regulations for advertising gambling services are being tightened.
The restrictions are in place due to the harmful and addictive nature of those products or services.



It is highly unlikely that the regulations would be relaxed for motorsport.

[thetool]

Alcohol sponsors are allowed in the BTCC. Crabbie's was the last brand to do so, in 2014 on Jack Clarke's Ford.

[Craner Curves]

Originally Posted by thetool

Alcohol sponsors are allowed in the BTCC. Crabbie's was the last brand to do so, in 2014 on Jack Clarke's Ford.

Nic Hamilton is carrying some ABK Beer branding this year.

[mark_l]

Originally Posted by Craner Curves

Nic Hamilton is carrying some ABK Beer branding this year.

Having just read the Blue Book I am surprised that only Tobacco advertising is expressly prohibited, unless part of period livery.

[AnnoyedMoose]

Motor racing has enough image problems in the modern world as it is without allowing tobacco sponsorship again.

[mark_l]

Originally Posted by AnnoyedMoose

Motor racing has enough image problems in the modern world as it is without allowing tobacco sponsorship again.

You could say the same about alcohol advertising in a series featuring heavily on tv, with a potential under 25 audience, I am thinking about the old 'Dont Drink & Drive' campaign.

[crmalcolm]

Alcosense and Calais Wine Superstore are both series partners.

[mark_l]

Originally Posted by crmalcolm

Alcosense and Calais Wine Superstore are both series partners.

Its been so long since we've seen a BTCC car in action that I had forgotten about the series sponsors, although neither advertise alcohol brands.

[porsche962fan]

Originally Posted by AnnoyedMoose

Motor racing has enough image problems in the modern world as it is without allowing tobacco sponsorship again.

who the heck cares? those sponsors used to throw alot of money in motorsport, which was good for the sport, the drivers and spectators

just cause some activists who don't care about the sport to start with moan is just ludicrus to bow to them, it's just stupid trying to appease those weirdos

[GT6]

They will probably ban oil companies soon, so that will be even more of a problem across motorsport.

[EastonNeston]

Tobacco advertising is banned because of the harmful, and addictive, effects of the drug.
Likewise for the restrictions on alcohol advertising.
Some products and services are so harmful to society, that for the good of our society overall, their promotion is, righfully, severly restricted.


The majority of the population understand that simple fact.

[porsche962fan]

Originally Posted by EastonNeston

Tobacco advertising is banned because of the harmful, and addictive, effects of the drug.
Likewise for the restrictions on alcohol advertising.
Some products and services are so harmful to society, that for the good of our society overall, their promotion is, righfully, severly restricted.


The majority of the population understand that simple fact.

nobody is FORCED to consume it !!! does anyone really start smoking cos they saw Malboro or Rothmans in F1 ???? that's really ludicros

if one of the smaller parties comes out with a message to abolish all this restrictions and bans I am sure they will et a lot of votes

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by porsche962fan

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if one of the smaller parties comes out with a message to abolish all this restrictions and bans I am sure they will et a lot of votes

Putting aside the actual issues with tobacco as a product - to understand why a small party getting a lot of votes would still be a futile act:

https://www.politics.co.uk/reference/tobacco-advertising

To be honest though, I'm amazed that a 2020 post in a motorsport forum is advocating for tobacco sponsorship to return. Considering that tv advertising of tobacco was banned in the UK 55 years ago, any move back towards that direction would fly in the face of decades of progress....

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by EastonNeston

The majority of the population understand that simple fact.

Sadly, that still leaves a minority who don't understand. I think it proves that common sense is not a prerequisite for being able to post on a forum.

[RS67]

Seeing as insurance companies haven't been paying out on many claims because of lockdown, they would be ideal sponsors with extra money.

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by RS67

Seeing as insurance companies haven't been paying out on many claims because of lockdown, they would be ideal sponsors with extra money.

And yet, the withdrawals we've already seen had significant insurance company backing?

[Adam43]

Originally Posted by porsche962fan

nobody is FORCED to consume it !!! does anyone really start smoking cos they saw Malboro or Rothmans in F1 ???? that's really ludicros

if one of the smaller parties comes out with a message to abolish all this restrictions and bans I am sure they will et a lot of votes

Why would people vote for that? Would it change people’s quality of life? Oh, my life is enriched by a good cigarette advert, I’m going to vote!

There are people who, permanently or temporarily, are influenced by these things. For that there are these things are in place. It also sets the principle that something that is harmful isn’t mainstream enough to be advertised.

[porsche962fan]

Originally Posted by Adam43

. It also sets the principle that something that is harmful isn’t mainstream enough to be advertised.

don't get it

look at PORN , it's more rampant than ever in one form or another so why bother to prohibit advertising it ? certain "hub" is even mentioned in mainstream TV shows/ movies (like Black Mirror)

if cigarettes were such an evil why aren't they prohibit outright like cocaine , heroine etc ?

[EastonNeston]

Originally Posted by porsche962fan

nobody is FORCED to consume it !!! does anyone really start smoking cos they saw Malboro or Rothmans in F1 ???? that's really ludicros

What is really ludicrous, is your appalling spelling and grammer!!!!!!

[porsche962fan]

Originally Posted by EastonNeston

What is really ludicrous, is your appalling spelling and grammer!!!!!!

cry me a river

[sceptic]

Originally Posted by crmalcolm

Putting aside the actual issues with tobacco as a product - to understand why a small party getting a lot of votes would still be a futile act:

https://www.politics.co.uk/reference/tobacco-advertising

To be honest though, I'm amazed that a 2020 post in a motorsport forum is advocating for tobacco sponsorship to return. Considering that tv advertising of tobacco was banned in the UK 55 years ago, any move back towards that direction would fly in the face of decades of progress....

Only cigarette advertising was banned 55 years ago. Cigars and rolling tobacco could still be advertised well into the 80s.

Apart from tobacco the following are banned from sponsorship in BTCC:

- Products which share brand names with tobacco products
- Pornography
- Escort services, prostitution and sexual massages
- Political parties and candidates
- Guns, gun clubs and other weapons
- prescription drugs
- unregulated financial services
- pyramid schemes