WEC New rules. New manufacturers. The 2021 and beyond positivity thread! - Page 63

veeten · 17 Jul 2023, 14:42 (Ref:4168773)

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Originally Posted by hondafan37

I wonder when we will see the Alpine or the Lamborghini on the track.
The true version is usually different from the excivision version.
I remember reading that the Alpine tests began on June 28, however we have not seen anything.

That was about testing the engine/powertrain, they were still designing the outer body by this time. Using the information that they were getting from Acura, Oreca could take their time with Alpine to engineer what would work best for them.

Unlike Porsche, who presently is Multimatic's only customer, and Isotta Fraschini, who had the help of Michelotto to design and build their LMH chassis.

S griffin · 17 Jul 2023, 14:49 (Ref:4168776)

It will be tough for Alpine, but at least they have started work. They need someone like ORECA to steer them in the right direction

It’s good we have so much variety in terms of makes and manufacturers, so everything is in safe hands atm

veeten · 17 Jul 2023, 15:14 (Ref:4168780)

Check out the article at sportscar365.com, about how Doornan feels about hydrogen-powered protos. He has the same attitude about them as he did with LMDh, and is very bullish on them joining, especially if it involves manufacturers.

veeten · 25 Jul 2023, 14:56 (Ref:4169898)

C'mon Alfa, stop stalling...

Mike E · 25 Jul 2023, 17:24 (Ref:4169916)

"“In my mind, it’s going to be F1 or the WEC next. We are still considering both options”"

"“(We) shall enter a competition if we believe we can win. "

So not F1, then.

https://www.dailysportscar.com/2023/...programme.html

Simmi · 25 Jul 2023, 18:28 (Ref:4169928)

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Originally Posted by Mike E

"“In my mind, it’s going to be F1 or the WEC next. We are still considering both options”"

"“(We) shall enter a competition if we believe we can win. "

So not F1, then.

https://www.dailysportscar.com/2023/...programme.html

They weren't going to make an announcement at Le Mans Classic about an F1 programme were they. Let's hope it's only a brief pause.

**joeb** · 25 Jul 2023, 20:20 (Ref:4169934)

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Originally Posted by Mike E

"“In my mind, it’s going to be F1 or the WEC next. We are still considering both options”"

"“(We) shall enter a competition if we believe we can win. "

So not F1, then.

https://www.dailysportscar.com/2023/...programme.html

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Originally Posted by Simmi

They weren't going to make an announcement at Le Mans Classic about an F1 programme were they. Let's hope it's only a brief pause.

Could it be the initial decision was set to use the Peugeot as a base, and now they aren't sure that is a good idea?

**Adam43** · 25 Jul 2023, 23:32 (Ref:4169952)

Just fantasy:

Wouldn’t it be fun if the based it on Peugeot, but had a wing!

hondafan37 · 26 Jul 2023, 02:43 (Ref:4169956)

I think the ACO should have a favorable BOP for aspirated engines and good sounding cars!!!
This is how a good racing car should sound to me... watch the video after the first minute...
https://youtu.be/MPgq5Zz0ARM
Ferrari won Le Mans this year but for me the 333SP is much more iconic than the 499P

**Adam43** · 26 Jul 2023, 02:55 (Ref:4169958)

I too love all that old stuff from the past.

hondafan37 · 26 Jul 2023, 03:14 (Ref:4169959)

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Originally Posted by Adam43

I too love all that old stuff from the past.

The same thing happens to me, sorry for my bad english
I dream of a hydrogen aspirated V12!!!

Mike E · 26 Jul 2023, 06:10 (Ref:4169964)

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Originally Posted by hondafan37

The same thing happens to me, sorry for my bad english
I dream of a hydrogen aspirated V12!!!

https://youtu.be/qF3IYPGNOek

They should Garage 56 this thing

Gerard C · 26 Jul 2023, 07:14 (Ref:4169968)

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Originally Posted by Adam43

I too love all that old stuff from the past.

My former boss had several wonders in his stable, all in racing order bar the 33TT12 our own mechanic could never properly fix.
Before the 333:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrari_312_P and if you can do with the yellow rims (blue is better!):https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dino_(automobile)
As to have a "Peugeot with a wing", not sure… Or a rebadged one, under the Stellantis Motorsport banner?

Gerard C · 26 Jul 2023, 07:27 (Ref:4169969)

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Originally Posted by Mike E

They should Garage 56 this thing

Good idea. The shape of the rear end looks like an Auto Onion I think and the stickers make me think about the Schnitzer E24/635 CSI of '86 (Ravaglia/Berger/Pirro). Hope Porsche will bring back the strange deco, like "Burton" (934 #58 LM'77) and stop with the pink pig evokation.

**Aysedasi** · 26 Jul 2023, 12:24 (Ref:4169997)

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Originally Posted by Mike E

https://youtu.be/qF3IYPGNOek

They should Garage 56 this thing

Agreed. I saw it at the FOS and it's a seriously weird thing, a 'Le Monstre' for the modern times!

S griffin · 26 Jul 2023, 13:17 (Ref:4169998)

Nice to see innovation still around, we'll see how the project goes from here. No reason why it can't be accepted at LM

Mike E · 26 Jul 2023, 14:43 (Ref:4170014)

Unfortunately it's 20 years old and not going anywhere near a race track.

Mike E · 26 Jul 2023, 14:46 (Ref:4170016)

The Lamborghini is alive

https://twitter.com/LamborghiniSC/st...12HCc63zQ&s=19

Simmi · 26 Jul 2023, 21:09 (Ref:4170061)

Listening to the latest TWISC it would appear that more manufacturers are coming - perhaps beyond Alfa.

I really think going forward WEC need to look at either a different, expanded freight arrangement and circuits that can cater for larger grids. All this talk about incoming GT3 manufacturers, but the amount of slots they're fighting for is surely going to continue reducing. The budgets are high as it is without having any medium-term certainty you'll remain on the grid.

kdr · 27 Jul 2023, 07:12 (Ref:4170087)

I've not listened to podcast yet but was having similar thoughts. I'm assuming that Qatar Airways are involved in the freight, would imagine if you said can you provide another plane as we have Mercedes and McLaren to freight as well they'd be accomodating. Fuji seems to get mentioned garage wise, from memory (long story) i'm pretty sure it had a long section of smaller unused units at pit out end of the pit lane.

Matador · 27 Jul 2023, 17:13 (Ref:4170165)

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Originally Posted by Adam43

Just fantasy:

Wouldn’t it be fun if the based it on Peugeot, but had a wing!

Love it.

hondafan37 · 27 Jul 2023, 18:16 (Ref:4170174)

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Originally Posted by Simmi

Listening to the latest TWISC it would appear that more manufacturers are coming - perhaps beyond Alfa.

I really think going forward WEC need to look at either a different, expanded freight arrangement and circuits that can cater for larger grids. All this talk about incoming GT3 manufacturers, but the amount of slots they're fighting for is surely going to continue reducing. The budgets are high as it is without having any medium-term certainty you'll remain on the grid.

maybe the ACO should think about 1 GT3 per brand instead of 2.

broadrun96 · 27 Jul 2023, 18:25 (Ref:4170177)

I think if more Hypercar/GTPs come on they can spread the costs of second aircraft to open the field a bit more. Does anyone want 10 GTs and the rest hypercars? That might as well be single class racing

**chunterer** · 27 Jul 2023, 22:36 (Ref:4170185)

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Originally Posted by broadrun96

I think if more Hypercar/GTPs come on they can spread the costs of second aircraft to open the field a bit more. Does anyone want 10 GTs and the rest hypercars? That might as well be single class racing

Looks like we will.end up with a C1 and C2 level of split?

Gerard C · 28 Jul 2023, 07:21 (Ref:4170200)

"whatever the fans of the discipline decide!" "The choice is the fans’!"

https://www.fiawec.com/en/news/2020-...gulations/6000

As a reminder: https://www.dailysportscar.com/2023/...-for-2024.html

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