Supercars Gen 3 (2022)

V8 Fireworks · 12 Dec 2019, 05:03 (Ref:3946254)

So... What will be on the Supercars grid come 2022?

Body types:
A Mustang with a more production-looking roofline thanks to a new revised roll cage spaceframe design?

Will there be any other body types apart the 'Stang?

Powertrains:
To remain market relevant, an off-the-shelf hybrid element has been mooted. BTCC and Nascar are supposed to adopt a similar system... Such a move may be necessary to get manufacturers interested.

Should the Mustang "GT" be replaced by the Mustang "Ecoboost" with the rorty downsize four cylinder turbo that is more market relevant?

Other tech regs:

Will wider rear tyres finally be introduced?

A paddle shift? (Boooooo!)

Alternative:

Will Gen 3 be abandoned due to costs and existing COTF will race on indefinitely?

one five five · 12 Dec 2019, 05:13 (Ref:3946256)

If they are going to use a new platform, how do they come to the Gen3 name?

BlueMax · 13 Dec 2019, 03:56 (Ref:3946430)

Just go to GT4. The work is already done. Mustang and Camaro already racing in it plus BMW.

Mixer · 13 Dec 2019, 04:07 (Ref:3946432)

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueMax

Just go to GT4. The work is already done. Mustang and Camaro already racing in it plus BMW.

... And nobody seems to care.

HDTVKSS · 13 Dec 2019, 04:13 (Ref:3946433)

The issue with GT4 (although i agree its a good choice) is GT3 exists and is faster / sexier and do they really want to go that path without eliminating GT3 in this country?

or, just TCR....

Sandgroper · 13 Dec 2019, 04:42 (Ref:3946435)

Twin Turbo Panel Van

thunderbolt · 13 Dec 2019, 05:17 (Ref:3946437)

https://www.motoring.com.au/bmw-m4-s...vealed-122089/ BMW M4 Supercar revealed
https://autoaction.com.au/

HDTVKSS · 13 Dec 2019, 05:21 (Ref:3946438)

Quote:

Originally Posted by thunderbolt

https://www.motoring.com.au/bmw-m4-s...vealed-122089/ BMW M4 Supercar revealed
https://autoaction.com.au/

There will be better looking and faster versions running around Bathurst at the 12 hour... just saying....

one five five · 13 Dec 2019, 05:23 (Ref:3946439)

Quote:

Originally Posted by HDTVKSS

The issue with GT4 (although i agree its a good choice) is GT3 exists and is faster / sexier and do they really want to go that path without eliminating GT3 in this country?

or, just TCR....

GT3 cars are faster than Supercars already. Why would it matter?

What sense does it make to build complete ground-up versions of Mustangs, Camaro’s, M4’s etc... for a single series in one country, when all the cars already exist and are built en masse?

Forda · 13 Dec 2019, 06:39 (Ref:3946448)

Another question might be whether Supercars considers having its own proprietary vehicle construction regulations as being integral to it's perceived value?

Mixer · 13 Dec 2019, 08:24 (Ref:3946466)

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Originally Posted by Forda

Another question might be whether Supercars considers having its own proprietary vehicle construction regulations as being integral to it's perceived value?

Only because the teams themselves would have to divest of huge amounts of staff, at massive cost, if they suddenly were no longer developing and manufacturing cars.

And Roger would have nowhere to spend $20m to get ahead...

one five five · 13 Dec 2019, 08:46 (Ref:3946474)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mixer

Only because the teams themselves would have to divest of huge amounts of staff, at massive cost, if they suddenly were no longer developing and manufacturing cars.

Plenty of jobs have been lost in the Supercars industry in the last 23 years, for reasons that were described as progress, why should this be any different?

Teams want cheaper cars, here’s a way of doing it.

Mixer · 13 Dec 2019, 08:48 (Ref:3946475)

Quote:

Originally Posted by one five five

Plenty of jobs have been lost in the Supercars industry in the last 23 years, for reasons that were described as progress, why should this be any different?

This kind of move would be a seismic shift, akin to losing car manufacturing.

The huge job losses in such a concentrated area would mean a lot of people who wouldn't easily again find similar work.

This is why the teams themselves might be seen to be their own worst enemy, and resistant to change.

mayhem · 13 Dec 2019, 19:21 (Ref:3946593)

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueMax

Just go to GT4. The work is already done. Mustang and Camaro already racing in it plus BMW.

Google 'exciting GT4 race'. I'd be surprised if you get a return on your search.

Forda · 13 Dec 2019, 22:11 (Ref:3946618)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mixer

This kind of move would be a seismic shift, akin to losing car manufacturing.

So if Supercars moved from a control chassis and a silhouette formula, to a production chassis; this would be akin to Ford/Holden/Toyota quitting manufacturing in Australia??

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mixer

The huge job losses in such a concentrated area would mean a lot of people who wouldn't easily again find similar work.

Pace Innovations wouldn't be able to further diversify their operations?
Welders and fabricators can't be re-positioned or re-employed?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mixer

This is why the teams themselves might be seen to be their own worst enemy, and resistant to change.

They're not adaptable to change; yet in many cases have gone from Blueprint to Gen2 without much trouble?

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