LM24 Le Mans 2005 - "Test Day" week-end thread - Page 6

**FIRE** · 6 Jun 2005, 19:54 (Ref:1321700)

Quote:

Originally Posted by paul-collins

There are no true LMP1s, only hybrids (Dome, Courage, Pesca), LMP900s (Audi, Rollcentre, RfH) and LMP675s (Creation, Jota).

Isn't the Nasamax a true LMP1 car (unfortuntate they have withdrawn)?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunlop Corner

I am really confused with what rules the LMP1s run under.
So what i would like to know is, which cars is true LMP1s, which are hybrids and who runs as LMP900?

See Mulsanne's Corner for some explanation.

jhansen · 6 Jun 2005, 19:55 (Ref:1321701)

Yeah, I was under the impression that the WR is a hybrid as well...

Hey 19dodge, when will be seeing the fantacy competition round for Le Mans? Not trying to push, I know it's an undertaking, but I'm just curious. Thanks.

cmk · 6 Jun 2005, 20:07 (Ref:1321714)

Quote:

Originally Posted by FIRE

Isn't the Nasamax a true LMP1 car (unfortuntate they have withdrawn)?

I think the Nasamax was a hybrid, given especially that it was built from the old Reynard chassis. It was the only car running to even hybrid specs in LMP900 last year, which is I think why it was given so much attention as a representative of the characteristics of the new LMP1 formula.

I believe the WRs are hybrids. I remember there was at least one hybrid WR built up last year, and the two cars now seem to be in fairly similar spec despite their different origins. The headlamps on the two cars do seem to be different shapes, though.

**FIRE** · 6 Jun 2005, 20:11 (Ref:1321719)

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmk

I think the Nasamax was a hybrid, given especially that it was built from the old Reynard chassis. It was the only car running to even hybrid specs in LMP900 last year, which is I think why it was given so much attention as a representative of the characteristics of the new LMP1 formula.

Probably right, but I knew there was something special (no, not only the fuel

) on the Nasamax car.

TheNewBob · 6 Jun 2005, 22:04 (Ref:1321843)

The WR... just how old is that car? As in how much has it been developed over time?

Tim Northcutt · 6 Jun 2005, 22:06 (Ref:1321846)

I believe they revised it last year...but could be wrong on that...

Mulsannes Corner would be the site to check...they would have the most cureent info concerning updates or revisions to the chassis...

SALEEN S7R · 7 Jun 2005, 00:52 (Ref:1321968)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fab

For pics, try those ones :
- ACO
- Paddock.net
- PlanetLeMans (seeing the cameras Sander and Vinnie brought on the spot, I couldn't wait for the result !)
- n138.com (Karl Kling kindly hosting some of mine)
and probably soon :
- Zoom24, by BernardB
- Infocourse
- Jérôme Mugnier's Virages

Sorry for those I forgot !

Also a lot of great photos to be found here.

cmk · 7 Jun 2005, 03:18 (Ref:1322017)

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheNewBob

The WR... just how old is that car? As in how much has it been developed over time?

I think that one chassis was the new-for-2003 car that raced at LM and the LM 1000k that year, and the other is a car from the previous generation (same type as the rotary one...) that they have been running ever since. I may, of course, be completely wrong!

19dodge · 7 Jun 2005, 03:30 (Ref:1322019)

Quote:

Originally Posted by jhansen

Hey 19dodge, when will be seeing the fantacy competition round for Le Mans? Not trying to push, I know it's an undertaking, but I'm just curious. Thanks.

its been up for a few days now

http://tentenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=69924

Fab · 7 Jun 2005, 03:30 (Ref:1322020)

Infocourse posted pics and reports yesterday eve...

Fab · 7 Jun 2005, 03:37 (Ref:1322024)

You'll certainly appreciate the top speeds that Laurent posted on Infocourse... lots of comments to be made there...

(we don't know where they were recorded, though, as the note given to Infocourse didn't mention it...).

Fab · 7 Jun 2005, 03:44 (Ref:1322028)

Quote:

Originally Posted by paul-collins

As to Creation's performance, apparently they were suffering from understeer, and were running high downforce at front to partly compensate, but that had an effect on straightline speed. (per dailysportscar)

There's a Minassian' interview on Infocourse : he says "We're rolling with absoloutely no downforce, to gain in aerodynamic rendition"... I won't dare to translate in technical terms

He also says that they've no real aerodynamical problems, but mainly a lack of top speed, in comparaison with the hybrids.

And the team meant to put soft rubbers at the end of the day, but the rain came...

Minass stated that their time is what they could hold easely during the race. They'll try a qualification time next week...

Fab · 7 Jun 2005, 03:49 (Ref:1322031)

More links to pics on Jérôme Mugnier's Virages - including Motorsport.com, for Chris

A nice report and Loeb's arrival pics on Soheil Ayari's website

Mal · 7 Jun 2005, 06:57 (Ref:1322071)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fab

You'll certainly appreciate the top speeds that Laurent posted on Infocourse... lots of comments to be made there...

(we don't know where they were recorded, though).

Interesting - you can see where Pescarolo is making up time - 15/20kmh faster than the Audi, DBA and Zytek.
Also the Aston is 10Kmh faster than the Corvette

vandijk · 7 Jun 2005, 08:58 (Ref:1322144)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fab

For pics, try those ones :
- ACO
- Paddock.net
- PlanetLeMans (seeing the cameras Sander and Vinnie brought on the spot, I couldn't wait for the result !)
- n138.com (Karl Kling kindly hosting some of mine)
and probably soon :
- Zoom24, by BernardB
- Infocourse
- Jérôme Mugnier's Virages

Sorry for those I forgot !

Thanks Fab, it was great seeing you and Bernard again!

My shoulder is still a bit painfull from the 15kgs of photo equipment I was carrying around...

With some help of Frank most of the pictures are now edited and put online in the pre-qual gallery. The rest of Vin's pictures will be added later, likely tonight.

If any of you want a specific picture in the gallery to be made available as a wallpaper just send me, or bettter EliseGT1, a PM.

paul-collins · 7 Jun 2005, 12:57 (Ref:1322328)

Quote:

Originally Posted by FIRE

Isn't the Nasamax a true LMP1 car (unfortuntate they have withdrawn)?

Their intent was to develop the car into a true P1 but they only got as far as the hybrid stage.

Essentially they would need a new tub and rollover structure (including passenger primary rollover protection) to complete the move.

JAG · 7 Jun 2005, 17:09 (Ref:1322496)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fab

More links to pics on Jérôme Mugnier's Virages - including Motorsport.com, for Chris

A nice report and Loeb's arrival pics on Soheil Ayari's website

Wonder if the huge press attention Loebs Le Mans debut has created has helped to push the Peugeot LMP1 project further up the pecking order?

Fab · 7 Jun 2005, 18:22 (Ref:1322573)

90 vivid pics on PlanetLeMans : don't miss them !

Fab · 8 Jun 2005, 03:29 (Ref:1322876)

Pics on the very impressive strike that one of the BMS Ferraris did on the WR and the marshalls at the Dunlop, on Jérôme Mugnier's Virage, thanks to Olivier Beroud (C°).

Jérôme Mugnier reports that only three cars did some practice on the Bugatti yesterday (including the Creation : Minass beated the 2003' pole of the 1000 kms in November), and that Yannick Dalmas was wandering around...

Fab · 9 Jun 2005, 03:16 (Ref:1323632)

More pics on Infocourse...

And a huuuuuuuge work to present the teams and the cars, still on Infocourse.

**FIRE** · 9 Jun 2005, 16:39 (Ref:1324054)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fab

And a huuuuuuuge work to present the teams and the cars, still on Infocourse.

Didn't know the Rollcentre Judd is from Holland...

Laurent · 9 Jun 2005, 18:10 (Ref:1324148)

It's british now

RobertPrange · 9 Jun 2005, 18:27 (Ref:1324166)

i really love those cartoon drawings , who did them?

**FIRE** · 9 Jun 2005, 19:26 (Ref:1324256)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laurent

It's british now

Ok, he has changed it.

Laurent · 9 Jun 2005, 19:55 (Ref:1324283)

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobertPrange

i really love those cartoon drawings , who did them?

His name is Pierrick Chazeaud.

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