LM24 Le Mans Test Day - Page 12

JAG · 3 Jun 2007, 19:35 (Ref:1927832)

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Originally Posted by rdjones

I never thought I would see a 3.26 lap round Le Mans again. Then again is that qualifying pace or race pace.

Well 1.5 seconds is likely down to track changes, so past benchmarks and ACO target times need to be reasessed.

Aerodynamic · 3 Jun 2007, 19:42 (Ref:1927837)

Reason behind Arena #10 off in the second session was a tire exploding on the entry to the Karting curves according to telemetry......pretty scary place to have one! Nothing more than race pace run today for No.10. Something else....Tom Chilton has not been given dispensation to run in the race due to Vauxhall committments at Croft.......I hear rumours of a replacemant driver in the wings, a rather good one too

Great to see Pesca mixing it with the LMPds......cant help but feel that Audis final charge was thwarted by the red flag at the end of the session though (having looked at McNish's commments). Pug seem to have the pace though, reliability? ....I foresee and Audi 1,2 Pesca 3.

Anyone got any good photos?

The359 · 3 Jun 2007, 19:56 (Ref:1927845)

Nice headline on the ACO's website:

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Expectation that changes in the technical regulations would close the gap between the diesel powered cars and petrol, have proved to be wrong, at least as far as testing is concerned.

**Adam43** · 3 Jun 2007, 20:01 (Ref:1927846)

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Originally Posted by Aerodynamic

Something else....Tom Chilton has not been given dispensation to run in the race due to Vauxhall committments at Croft.......I hear rumours of a replacemant driver in the wings, a rather good one too

See the entry list thread: http://tentenths.com/forum/showthrea...76#post1927776
RLM said he had been given dispensation, although Tom knew nothing in the morning at Croft...

**PascaLM** · 3 Jun 2007, 20:05 (Ref:1927849)

What are the causes of these laps under 3'30" ?
- cars (Peugeot has announced more than 700hp, Audi are close to 700hp.)
- pilots
But also :
- tyres
- new Tertre Rouge as a lesser reason (1 second maybe)
Notice that the GT1 have done good laps too despite smaller restrictors.

In 1992, on a very similar circuit, Alliot made 3'21"2(Pug), Dalmas 3'22"5 (Pug), Lees 3'26"4 (Toy), Lammers 3'27"7(Toy) and Raphanel 3'29"3'(Toy). 2007 top cars are not far from these results.
Interesting

!

Aerodynamic · 3 Jun 2007, 20:06 (Ref:1927851)

........I know. Unfortunatly the ACO act in wierd and wonderful ways. The DS article (news from today) suggests that he has not been approved. The rumours I have been hearing also make me think he may have to wait another year.

**Adam43** · 3 Jun 2007, 20:12 (Ref:1927858)

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Originally Posted by PascaLM

- new Tertre Rouge as a lesser reason (1 second maybe)

I wonder what it is worth. There are also reports of 3-4s, which seems a little too much.

**PascaLM** · 3 Jun 2007, 20:23 (Ref:1927868)

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Originally Posted by AdamAshmore

I wonder what it is worth. There are also reports of 3-4s, which seems a little too much.

I also think that 3 or 4 seconds is too much.
We need the trap speeds before the first chicane to have an idea of the gain.

**PascaLM** · 3 Jun 2007, 20:31 (Ref:1927873)

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Originally Posted by Aerodynamic

Pug seem to have the pace though, reliability? ....I foresee and Audi 1,2 Pesca 3.

Knowing that the 908 are less reliable than the R10, Peugeot will certainly try to break the lap record during the race, before having transmission problems.

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Originally Posted by Aerodynamic

Anyone got any good photos?

We are waiting for Bernard !

bernard b · 3 Jun 2007, 20:37 (Ref:1927880)

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Originally Posted by PascaLM

We are waiting for Bernard !

well, probably won't be tonight
just back home, need a shower!
and sorting pictures should take time

but who knows ...

chernaudi · 3 Jun 2007, 20:44 (Ref:1927888)

And we don't know 100% what Audi is capable of with this year's R10. They mostly(presumably) did race setup. But then again, in qualifying, they ran 3:30's, and Kristensen last year ran a 3:31 in the race.

bernard b · 3 Jun 2007, 20:50 (Ref:1927893)

I think Audi can improve A LOT
when Bourdais made his fast lap, everybody laughed in Audi's garage ...

**PascaLM** · 3 Jun 2007, 21:06 (Ref:1927900)

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Originally Posted by bernard b

I think Audi can improve A LOT
when Bourdais made his fast lap, everybody laughed in Audi's garage ...

How to say "laughing yellow" ?

_______________________________

I've just found it : "give a forced laugh".

Corvette13 · 3 Jun 2007, 22:16 (Ref:1927961)

Good day for the vettes... A C6 on the top...What a good surprise!

The yellow cars seem to be very "easy" this year. It's the first time they keep the lead during a practice session( what a flying lap by Mag', too bad he has been switched to the 63 car

), and only a damper change on the 63 car during the test day...

Can't wait for "on the track" pics of the Corvettes...

gwyllion · 3 Jun 2007, 23:09 (Ref:1928005)

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Originally Posted by JAG

3.26 seems about right for a balls out lap, without taking uneccessary risks, with a quicker track.

I assume Pescarolo were on the same tyres as Peugeot (whatever they were), in which case a 3.28 is very good.

The Pescarolo did its fastest lap on qualifiers, while Bourdais was on race tyres. That is a huge difference.

Henri expects LMP1P race pace to be 3-4 seconds slower than LMP1D. Pescarolo is also convinced Audi was sandbagging and not showing their ultimate pace.

The #16 Pescarolo suffered some gearbox problems. Xtrac will have to look into that.

source: http://www.endurance-info.com/article.php?sid=3696

HORNDAWG · 4 Jun 2007, 02:50 (Ref:1928048)

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Originally Posted by Corvette13

Good day for the vettes... A C6 on the top...What a good surprise!

The yellow cars seem to be very "easy" this year. It's the first time they keep the lead during a practice session( what a flying lap by Mag', too bad he has been switched to the 63 car

), and only a damper change on the 63 car during the test day...

Can't wait for "on the track" pics of the Corvettes...

I think Jan is more than happy to make the switch to the (6)3 Vette for the full time ride!!

L.P.

Mindspin13B · 4 Jun 2007, 04:24 (Ref:1928070)

Its Ok, AMR will be in 1st when its most important

HORNDAWG · 4 Jun 2007, 04:53 (Ref:1928072)

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Originally Posted by Mindspin13B

Its Ok, AMR will be in 1st when its most important

In line for the ferry ride home?!

L.P.

canam · 4 Jun 2007, 05:45 (Ref:1928082)

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Originally Posted by gwyllion

The Pescarolo did its fastest lap on qualifiers, while Bourdais was on race tyres. That is a huge difference. source: http://www.endurance-info.com/article.php?sid=3696

Out of the top ten, does anyone know who ran qualifiers yesterday? I have heard that none of the diesels ran qualifiers while the #16 Pesca and the RfH Dome did run qualifiers. I don't know if the others in the top ten (Zytek, Creation and other Pesca) tried them.

Corvette13 · 4 Jun 2007, 08:16 (Ref:1928157)

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Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

I think Jan is more than happy to make the switch to the (6)3 Vette for the full time ride!!

L.P.

Yes, but at LeMans he seems a little bit faster than O'Connell and Fellows...At LeMans, the 64 car has always been faster than the 63 car, and the Gavin/Mag/Beretta line-up was always first. This trio was damn fast...What a pity GM have broke it!

gwyllion · 4 Jun 2007, 09:32 (Ref:1928231)

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Originally Posted by bernard b

I think Audi can improve A LOT
when Bourdais made his fast lap, everybody laughed in Audi's garage ...

Last year Audi also limited the torque during the test day.

According to http://www.rs6.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9368 the V120 TDI torque produced the following amount of torque:

test day: 1100 Nm
qualifying (thursday): 1240 Nm
race: 1300 Nm

Wout · 4 Jun 2007, 09:56 (Ref:1928263)

I think the guys at Audi will realise that they can laugh not earlier than at the end of the 24 hour race.
Maybe Peugeot also limited the torque..

MulsanneMike · 4 Jun 2007, 10:42 (Ref:1928306)

The R10 has a new rear wing. Check out Regis' shots on DSC.

cptkablamo · 4 Jun 2007, 10:56 (Ref:1928314)

Yeah, I somewho doubt all the cards on the table yet....although Audi are still the favourties, they shouldn't get too cocky...

Porsche look strong in GT2, at this stage...it will be equally as interesting to see if the Ferrari/Panoz/Spyker guys can change this round

AU N EGL · 4 Jun 2007, 11:16 (Ref:1928328)

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Originally Posted by cptkablamo

Yeah, I somewho doubt all the cards on the table yet....

Know when to hold them

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