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Old 24 Mar 2009, 10:53 (Ref:2423474)   #1
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McLaren and Renault threatened to boycott the Australian GP
Although mentioned in another thread, I felt this warranted a thread of it's own:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/spo...cle5962563.ece

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I've got a feeling that this season is going to eclipse the politics of even the past couple of years - even by Bernie's standards, this is pretty strongly worded:

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If they come in here with a gun and hold it to my head, they had better be sure they can f***ing pull the trigger, and they should make sure it’s got bullets in it because, if they miss, they better look out.
I just hope the sport can come out the other side of the increasingly open FIA+FOM/FOTA war in a healthy state...
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Old 24 Mar 2009, 11:18 (Ref:2423493)   #2
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Wow - choice words from Bernie!
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Old 24 Mar 2009, 12:03 (Ref:2423525)   #3
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Wow - choice words from Bernie!
I think this quote pretty much sums the man up: Not the type of person that I'd like to be dealing with on a regular basis (or at all to be honest)...
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Old 24 Mar 2009, 12:06 (Ref:2423528)   #4
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It seems that Dennis and Briatore have tried to have him over a barrel and he called their bluff.

Advantage Bernie.
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Old 24 Mar 2009, 12:31 (Ref:2423552)   #5
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It's Bernie's ball.

Imagine if it had happened and the words "bringing the sport into disrepute" had reared their ugly heads again!

This is going to be an interesting season,but possibly for all the wrong reasons...again.
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Old 24 Mar 2009, 12:50 (Ref:2423567)   #6
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Judging by their recent testing performances McLaren may have been better off staying at home and doing Monoposto.
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Old 24 Mar 2009, 12:59 (Ref:2423575)   #7
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Without the teams you don't have an event...
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Old 24 Mar 2009, 13:06 (Ref:2423579)   #8
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Without the teams you don't have an event...
Likewise, without the event the teams have no income.

Who blinks first?
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I'll get the matresses and the piano. Can Flav. play?
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Old 24 Mar 2009, 13:13 (Ref:2423587)   #10
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All we are seeing is Bernie's spin on this incident. I would be astonished if Ron Flav et al didn't get something out of the confrontation. They may even have got what they wanted as "write us a cheque now or we won't be in OZ" sounds more like a starting point for negotiation than any serious intent.

All the same a war between The establishment and the teams is unlikely be good for the sport.
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Old 24 Mar 2009, 13:31 (Ref:2423602)   #11
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I'm sure there are plenty of companies that could work with the teams and successfully run the F1 championship without Bernie. Don't forget, if he doesn't field enough cars, Bernie faces big payouts to the TV companies, so the teams are in a strong position too. If enough teams felt the need to, they could easily stick two fingers up and go it alone.
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Old 24 Mar 2009, 14:01 (Ref:2423640)   #12
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Bernie has gotten to where he is today by being the glue between various incongruent parties including the teams, the media and the organizers. A united FOTA is not what he needs and the aftermath of the winner takes all debacle last week is evidence that his power is being to erode. We've only heard one side of this incident here, and I would be very surprised if Bernie's version of events is the whole story.
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Old 24 Mar 2009, 14:16 (Ref:2423651)   #13
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It's Bernie's ball.

Imagine if it had happened and the words "bringing the sport into disrepute" had reared their ugly heads again!

This is going to be an interesting season,but possibly for all the wrong reasons...again.
Again... always like that, no racing.
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Old 24 Mar 2009, 16:58 (Ref:2423742)   #14
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Can we have a real championship run by the stakeholders (manufacturers), and not on Bernie's whims? Tick tick tick - his time is up.
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I'll get the matresses and the piano. Can Flav. play?
cute Adam, the b+w photos sprung immediately back into my mind, but alas I forget who was the tinkler...
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cute Adam, the b+w photos sprung immediately back into my mind, but alas I forget who was the tinkler...
If you're thinking what I'm thinking, the answer is the late Elio de Angelis.
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Old 24 Mar 2009, 18:20 (Ref:2423801)   #17
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For God's sake. Shut the heck up, just because some team has thought of a design you haven't. Just get on with the racing. No fan gives a crap about diffusers.
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If today's drivers were to strike it'd be Sutil tinkling the ivories. He's a classically trained pianist, like Cevert and De Angelis before him. Some say his best pal Lewis Hamilton is also a bit of a pianist.
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For God's sake. Shut the heck up, just because some team has thought of a design you haven't. Just get on with the racing. No fan gives a crap about diffusers.
It isn't really that simple though.
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And it's not about diffusers anyway.

It's about that stuff that people normally fight about.
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Likewise, without the event the teams have no income.

Who blinks first?
No one would have income *without* the teams showing up, and some individuals would face a fairly whopping lawsuit...don't you think?

The teams are asking for money that is owed to them...Bernie pay the money and be quite...
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No one would have income *without* the teams showing up, and some individuals would face a fairly whopping lawsuit...don't you think?

The teams are asking for money that is owed to them...Bernie pay the money and be quite...
.....sensible
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be quite what?
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A team that doesn't appear at a F1 race looses it's license to race in F1.
No way they are going to risk that.
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I find it astonishing that the "boss" of F1 comes out to the public acknowledging these presumably behind-closed-doors discussions - then uses such inflammatory language in regards to two of his major stakeholders!!!
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be quite what?
Happy that at your age anyone is still listening to you..
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