LMS Rnd 6: Interlagos 1000km 9-11 Nov 2007 - Page 2

Graham Goodwin · 20 Sep 2007, 21:35 (Ref:2019324)

Yup - sorry, note to self next time press "quote"!!!

The359 · 20 Sep 2007, 21:35 (Ref:2019326)

Is is, this is Mr. Diniz's former DBR9:

http://www.astonmartins.com/aston_ma...hassis_102.htm

AU N EGL · 20 Sep 2007, 22:44 (Ref:2019359)

Entry List?

The359 · 20 Sep 2007, 23:06 (Ref:2019364)

With the race not running until November, I assume an entry list will be a while off.

**Bentley03** · 20 Sep 2007, 23:16 (Ref:2019368)

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Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

If I may, where and what is this? Link? Thanks

L.P.

Reglement Sportif (Le Mans Series) 2007

Annex III (page 18) Attribution des Points.

Enjoy!

HORNDAWG · 21 Sep 2007, 00:00 (Ref:2019382)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bentley03

Reglement Sportif (Le Mans Series) 2007

Annex III (page 18) Attribution des Points.

Enjoy!

Thanks!

L.P.

Justin Moran · 21 Sep 2007, 06:41 (Ref:2019471)

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Originally Posted by The Badger

Are RML & ASM going ?

Speaking to Mike Newton at Silverstone, RML will win the championship if they don't go! The half point rule makes this a farce IMHO. If they turned up there would be more than 6 LMP2's therefore would have to race for the win, so by not turning up and only half points available to the winner, RML get the Championship by merit of having enough points after Silverstone!

Is this really necessary for an International race series????

canam · 21 Sep 2007, 07:24 (Ref:2019495)

Half points are part of the regs. Had this been another European race, this would not be an issue. The fact that it is a (very costly) flyaway race with extremely limited/virtually non-existant travel support is the problem. Ironically, this arises out of the unwillingness of the FIAGT crowd to do race and the need for Ratel to get out of the deep hole that he was put in.

ss_collins · 21 Sep 2007, 09:12 (Ref:2019551)

AGR claim that they are definatley not doing this race and they call the rumour - wishful thinking.

KA · 21 Sep 2007, 10:07 (Ref:2019583)

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Originally Posted by The359

Is is, this is Mr. Diniz's former DBR9:

http://www.astonmartins.com/aston_ma...hassis_102.htm

Given how long it's been on the market, it's presumably a difficult car to sell- half-a-million pounds, and it would need returning to 'standard' GT1 Aston spec before you could race it in either FIA GT or ACO races....Probably not that attractive to collectors either, as it's in a one-off spec and doesn't have any race history....

KA · 21 Sep 2007, 10:10 (Ref:2019587)

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Originally Posted by The359

With the race not running until November, I assume an entry list will be a while off.

an entry list is going to depend on there being any actual entries.....This one really is shaping up to be a bit of a disaster all round....

ss_collins · 21 Sep 2007, 11:05 (Ref:2019617)

dunno why the final round is not PLM...

AstonGeoff · 21 Sep 2007, 11:56 (Ref:2019651)

PLM probably wouldn't attract that much more of an entry than Brazil, it's the cost of getting there and back thats stopping most of the teams.

Silverstone should have been the final round, there's no need for a flyaway race at all.

gwyllion · 21 Sep 2007, 13:11 (Ref:2019693)

The single Pescarolo will be piloted by Boullion, Collard and Primat.

LMP1 will also run with half points, because there will only be 4 cars (2x Peugeot, 1x Pescarolo, 1x Creation).

source: http://www.endurance-info.com/article.php?sid=4208

brielga · 21 Sep 2007, 13:35 (Ref:2019705)

This gets more complicated by the day....4 LMP1s, one LMP2 confirmed (Andretti), no GT1s and 2 GT2s (Spyker, JWA). Will we have some extra local reinforcements? A 10-hour race with such a little grid sounds like a big risk (a JLMC type of race) which the fans might not appreciate. let's hope we get some good surprises from now on...

Mal · 21 Sep 2007, 13:56 (Ref:2019717)

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Originally Posted by brielga

This gets more complicated by the day....4 LMP1s, one LMP2 confirmed (Andretti), no GT1s and 2 GT2s (Spyker, JWA). Will we have some extra local reinforcements? A 10-hour race with such a little grid sounds like a big risk (a JLMC type of race) which the fans might not appreciate. let's hope we get some good surprises from now on...

Embassy have said they are going

gwyllion · 21 Sep 2007, 14:10 (Ref:2019721)

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Originally Posted by brielga

This gets more complicated by the day....4 LMP1s, one LMP2 confirmed (Andretti), no GT1s and 2 GT2s (Spyker, JWA).

Sam pointed out that this confirmed AGR Acura is wishfull thinking. It is not happening. So only 1 confirmed LMP2 at the moment: Embassy

Justin Moran · 21 Sep 2007, 14:19 (Ref:2019725)

I can seriously see the ACO pulling the plug on this one! What an embarrasment.

A race too far?

**Bentley03** · 21 Sep 2007, 14:35 (Ref:2019732)

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Originally Posted by C9/89

A race too far?

Certainly a race too far away!

Justin Moran · 21 Sep 2007, 14:54 (Ref:2019741)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bentley03

Certainly a race too far away!

That did occur but I thought I'd let someone else get the laugh!

supercarS7 · 21 Sep 2007, 15:04 (Ref:2019748)

Why didn't the ACO pay for the freight of the teams like the FIA GT do for their fly away rounds? Then they would only have the cost of lodging and the other normal race weekend costs.

The359 · 21 Sep 2007, 19:38 (Ref:2020015)

Wouldn't it make sense that if Arena/Zytek are going to Petit and Laguna, they'd go to Brazil as well? I'm sure Zytek could get some pay drivers to at least drive their LMP2 car.

Graham Goodwin · 22 Sep 2007, 10:07 (Ref:2020324)

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Originally Posted by supercarS7

Why didn't the ACO pay for the freight of the teams like the FIA GT do for their fly away rounds? Then they would only have the cost of lodging and the other normal race weekend costs.

You might more reasonably ask why the ACO felt it necessary to bail out this race when the FIA GT plans to have it as one of their rounds fell through

KA · 22 Sep 2007, 10:52 (Ref:2020352)

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Originally Posted by AstonGeoff

PLM probably wouldn't attract that much more of an entry than Brazil, it's the cost of getting there and back thats stopping most of the teams.

Silverstone should have been the final round, there's no need for a flyaway race at all.

Even if PLM wouldn't have attracted much more of an entry than Brazil (as you said, it's still a flyaway after all...) at least the presence of the regular ALMS entry would have ensured a credible race...

The most sensible thing the ACO could do is learn the lesson from this farce and accept that taking the series outside Europe isn't viable without a proper travel deal to make it worthwhile for teams to go, and that if you're going to have a 'flyaway', then take it somewhere that has the potential to attract a reasonable number of local entries.

Is it too late in the day to cancel this? If they really feel the need for one more race this season, maybe they could try to find a last-minute slot at Le Mans Bugatti....

The359 · 22 Sep 2007, 20:10 (Ref:2020613)

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Originally Posted by Graham Goodwin

You might more reasonably ask why the ACO felt it necessary to bail out this race when the FIA GT plans to have it as one of their rounds fell through

Even better, what makes the FIA think that an Argentinian round next year will be worth it?

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