'09 LMS Round 2, Spa May 8th-10th - Page 12

ger80 · 11 May 2009, 20:10 (Ref:2460400)

so you only have to hit the leading car in the last lap, destroy the rear light and they have no chance to win the race. do we then really need the 24hours before?

kingkai · 11 May 2009, 20:56 (Ref:2460428)

You could then always pay the lego car team. Heuh I mean Lavaggi, to hit the leader in one of the few last laps and you have a win if your second

zac510 · 11 May 2009, 21:46 (Ref:2460465)

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Originally Posted by ger80

and a pic here:
http://file1.npage.de/001805/41/bilder/img_4684.jpg

Bit weak. If they knew they were going to penalise the car for it then they should have a standard protocol for that kind of incident.. Give a black flag warning like others suggested.
Disappointing

NightStalk3r · 11 May 2009, 22:02 (Ref:2460472)

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Originally Posted by zac510

Bit weak. If they knew they were going to penalise the car for it then they should have a standard protocol for that kind of incident.. Give a black flag warning like others suggested.
Disappointing

That is the protocol, but this time they decided to skip strait to the DQ.

insanity_mc · 11 May 2009, 23:01 (Ref:2460497)

We have some pictures online from the race at Spa

www.motorsports-online.net

greetings,

insanity.

**joeb** · 12 May 2009, 02:18 (Ref:2460568)

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Originally Posted by NightStalk3r

That is the protocol, but this time they decided to skip strait to the DQ.

After the IMSA officials taking the race from the Highcroft team in Long Beach, and now this GT2 win being taken......the officials sure aren't making any friends.....

**Aysedasi** · 12 May 2009, 07:13 (Ref:2460628)

I only just read about these DQs on PlanetLM and I have to say they really worry me - as a basic approach to deal with alleged legality (caused through accident damage), it's about as flawed as it can get!

Aslak Vind · 12 May 2009, 07:24 (Ref:2460639)

Only thing I dont get, why is the 2008 dieselcars punished with the regulation cuts meant for the 2009 cars?

ger80 · 12 May 2009, 08:58 (Ref:2460709)

Well, now I think we will see a Aston win in Le Mans. Pit stop in the first lap, remove the air restrictor, run the race, pit stop at 15:30 and bring the restrictor back in the car ...

Tim the Grey · 12 May 2009, 09:25 (Ref:2460727)

DR is NOT going to like you. Revealing his master plan to the world!

Aslak Vind · 12 May 2009, 09:59 (Ref:2460748)

Who would know?

henk4 · 12 May 2009, 10:45 (Ref:2460772)

Quote:

Originally Posted by ger80

so you only have to hit the leading car in the last lap, destroy the rear light and they have no chance to win the race. do we then really need the 24hours before?

two years ago at Donnington (IIRC could also be Silverstone) one of the Peugeots' suffered from being hit at the back, forcing the car to have its rear light replaced, which of course is not part of the engine cover. In the end the car wasa withdrawn.
And yes, of course you try to do what you suggested, but you would carry out such an action for the benefit of another car, because you will surely face disqualification and probably a one or two race suspension. You probably would not want that unless you get you "compensation" from the team that won because of your actions.

btw, here is our report
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/forum...slideshow.html

ss_collins · 12 May 2009, 11:06 (Ref:2460788)

It was Silverstone when Martin Short quite rightly complained about the missing legality plate

henk4 · 12 May 2009, 11:24 (Ref:2460806)

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Originally Posted by ss_collins

It was Silverstone when Martin Short quite rightly complained about the missing legality plate

Yes he was right, which begs the question where to draw the line....(the second Racing Box Lola for instance was refused on Sunday to go out again after they could not find the proper body work to replace the stuff that flew off during the first laps).

The Badger · 12 May 2009, 11:43 (Ref:2460824)

Any news as to when the verdict of the appeal will be released ?

Spyderman · 12 May 2009, 11:44 (Ref:2460825)

Well, I actually think it is quite easy to “draw the line”.
Example:

To be penalized:
Parts missing that endanger driver, other competitors and/or spectators (lack of lights, flying off, reduce stability, etc)
Body work intentionally removed to reduce weight.

Not to be penalized:
Bodywork that is removed from accidental contact (whilst on track) and that does not endanger driver, other competitors and/or spectators, nor does it make the car significantly (here one can determine say 0, 5% of allowed weight) below the allowed minimum weight.

Dave1Zippy · 12 May 2009, 12:26 (Ref:2460867)

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Originally Posted by JAG

Don't bother with the Sky subscription, there's a £3.99 per month Eurosport online subscription which gives you live streaming of the entire LMS races. For Le Mans I expect the practice and qualifying sessions to also be covered, you can compliment it with RLM.

There's also been a free stream for FIA GT recently.

So I understand. For technical reasons, my broadband is limited to 2mb and therefore some live streaming sites (ie Justin TV) are useless. May be worth a go though.

zac510 · 12 May 2009, 13:37 (Ref:2460921)

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Originally Posted by henk4

btw, here is our report
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/forum...slideshow.html

Great quality pictures!

henk4 · 12 May 2009, 14:56 (Ref:2460959)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spyderman

Well, I actually think it is quite easy to “draw the line”.
Example:

To be penalized:
Parts missing that endanger driver, other competitors and/or spectators (lack of lights, flying off, reduce stability, etc)
Body work intentionally removed to reduce weight.

Not to be penalized:
Bodywork that is removed from accidental contact (whilst on track) and that does not endanger driver, other competitors and/or spectators, nor does it make the car significantly (here one can determine say 0, 5% of allowed weight) below the allowed minimum weight.

sounds simple indeed, but still quite subjective....and a potential can of worms.

henk4 · 12 May 2009, 15:32 (Ref:2460989)

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Originally Posted by zac510

Great quality pictures!

thank you.

**Aysedasi** · 12 May 2009, 17:54 (Ref:2461097)

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Originally Posted by henk4

sounds simple indeed, but still quite subjective....and a potential can of worms.

But an eminently more sensible starting-point......

**joeb** · 12 May 2009, 18:01 (Ref:2461107)

Quote:

Originally Posted by henk4

btw, here is our report
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/forum...slideshow.html

Those were nice pics, I wish I could have been there! The Lavaggi crossing the line was my favorite.

Audi Racer · 13 May 2009, 02:00 (Ref:2461365)

did anyone else notice that the Aston P1's have sprouted brake ducts on the rear fenders

cptkablamo · 13 May 2009, 02:13 (Ref:2461371)

Does anyone know why Ibanez Racing Service, RML, Ranieri Randaccio and Strakka have negative points from Spa???

rich07 · 13 May 2009, 04:49 (Ref:2461398)

Quote:

Originally Posted by henk4

btw, here is our report
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/forum...slideshow.html

Great pics!! (there must be an echo in here lol)

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