Le Mans Series 2010 - Page 7

Subaru_WRX_STi · 30 Oct 2009, 19:55 (Ref:2572681)

Formula Le Mans in the LMS, please no, we have already a large firld of LMPs in both classes, and as a GT fan, I am worried that these FLM will knock out some GT2 entries...

HORNDAWG · 30 Oct 2009, 20:26 (Ref:2572695)

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Originally Posted by Subaru_WRX_STi

Formula Le Mans in the LMS, please no, we have already a large firld of LMPs in both classes, and as a GT fan, I am worried that these FLM will knock out some GT2 entries...

Do you really suppose that any of the new rule 2011 P-2s would be better than an FLM09 with the new 5.5L LS3 Chevy (which is the GT-2 Corvette engine), which would make it basically a defacto 2011 P-2? If the FLM do actually adapt the front end of the LMPC (lights) then what makes it any different than a P-2 for 2011?

L.P.

JAG · 30 Oct 2009, 20:37 (Ref:2572700)

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Originally Posted by Subaru_WRX_STi

Formula Le Mans in the LMS, please no, we have already a large firld of LMPs in both classes, and as a GT fan, I am worried that these FLM will knock out some GT2 entries...

2010 is going to be a transition year for all, I doubt grids will top 40, even with FLM.

In 2011 FLM could possibly intergrate into P2, while we'll have a better idea if GT1 is going to be the premier GT class, if not, it makes no sense to retain it with GM, Porsche, Ferrari, BMW etc. in GT2.

The Badger · 30 Oct 2009, 20:42 (Ref:2572703)

Now we are talking about 5 class's , and when that becomes the norm we might as well have 6 class's !!!

4 is plenty , more than enough .

johntt · 30 Oct 2009, 21:29 (Ref:2572726)

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Originally Posted by JAG

2010 is going to be a transition year for all, I doubt grids will top 40, even with FLM.

In 2011 FLM could possibly intergrate into P2, while we'll have a better idea if GT1 is going to be the premier GT class, if not, it makes no sense to retain it with GM, Porsche, Ferrari, BMW etc. in GT2.

All an FLM car need to be 2011 P2 compliant is a smaller production based engine.

Dead-Eye · 30 Oct 2009, 21:36 (Ref:2572731)

I don't think it has to be smaller (power output is about right too) - and it already is production based.

sceptic · 31 Oct 2009, 13:41 (Ref:2572950)

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Originally Posted by Rodger Davies

2. The November round is going to be one of those where the ACO decides to 'promote' the class outside Europe isn't it? Surely this is going to clash with any proposed Asian LM Series event (or have they already conceded that that won't happen next year?) and add unneccesary costs to competitors. Not exactly 'for the competitors'.

So I'm asking, in a roundabout way, what is the focus of the series?

I'm expecting the Asian LMS next season to be over before the November LMS finale:

Japan - 29th-31st October
China - 12th-14th November

dj choc ice · 31 Oct 2009, 16:10 (Ref:2573027)

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Originally Posted by KA

I'm almost hoping they get an LM entry, simply for comedy value....

The sad thing about this is, in the hands of a competent outfit, just how popular with the fans would a Lambo-engined LMP be...?

Any idea what chassis they're proposing to use?

Normally i would say a Lola Coupe would be used, after all the Aston lump is in the back of the Lola Coupe, both are V12's so it seems the natural choice, however, being JLOC, it will end up being a crock of ****.

A Lambo powered LMP would get the thumbs up from me, especially with that glorious V12 wail, although, we have a very Murcielago-ish sound in the current Aston Lola LMP1's though, a Lambo engine P1 though would possibly end up like a WR etc, small entry but it would likely get a lot of love from the fan's, it all depends if it comes on through, imagine if the Lambo V12 found its way into the back of a Dome S102!

carsten66 · 31 Oct 2009, 16:24 (Ref:2573039)

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Originally Posted by sceptic

I'm expecting the Asian LMS next season to be over before the November LMS finale:

Japan - 29th-31st October
China - 12th-14th November

Given the fact the Asian LMS takes place in 2010 and the november date is indeed a race in Europe, the question arises where the LMS could have a race in Europe at all - regarding the weather conditions at that time of the year?

But perhaps indeed it's the rumored visit of the Middle East... although it was considered to add Abu Dhabi as a sixth round to the schedule in 2010...

pablocomics · 31 Oct 2009, 19:56 (Ref:2573119)

Just a upgrade of a possible next year silly season

LMP1

-Oreca ORECA Courage LC 70 AIM (maybe 2 cars)

-Sebah Racing / Speedy Racing Lola B08 Maybe 2 cars

-Signature Plus ORECA Courage LC70 Judd

-Pescarolo Sport Pescarolo P01 (maybe two cars, maybe one, maybe the 908) They still have some problems

-Peugeot??? Maybe Spa before 24 hours like past year

-? Lola Aston Martin charouz (anyone will buy any of the 3 Aston Martin?)

-? Lola Aston Martin (anyone will buy any of the 3 Aston Martin?)

-? Lola Aston Martin (anyone will buy any of the 3 Aston Martin?)

Looks like nobody wants the one-year-and expensive AMR1

-Team LNT Ginetta-Zytek 09S Mansells? Maybe just a few races

-Scuderia Lavaggi Lavaggi LS1 AER Giovanni Lavaggi some races

-Trottet Racing? Maybe a Lola P1

-Epsilon-Euskadi? EE02 hybrid Probably won´t be present but if they get a good sponsor.....

-Drayson????? Lola-judd maybe a few races maybe Spa????

-Dome??? Spa race?

LMP2

-Racing Box Lola B08/80 Judd ???? They had some money problems

-RML Lola B08/80 ? Mike Newton, Thomas Erdos (new engine, not Mazda)

-Welter Racing WR Zytek Philippe & Stéphane Salini (some aero updates), maybe they move to P1 in 2011

-OAK Racing Pescarolo Mazda (2 cars? mazda?)

-Kruse Schiller Motorsport??? (maybe a new car, maybe none)

-Sebah Racing / Speedy Racing Lola B08/80 Judd (they have 2 LM invitations, but probably they move to P1)

-Gstaad Automobile Club Racing Team Zytek 07S - Zytek ?

-Quifel - ASM Team Ginetta-Zytek 09S Miguel Amaral

-Pegasus Racing Maybe 2 new cars

-Ranieri Randaccio???? Lucchini Nicholson McLaren??? maybe a few races

-Q8 Oil Hache Team, 2 cars, one Lucchini and one new car will be announced in december

-Embassy Racing /WFR Embassy WF-01 Zytek Maybe 2 cars

-Ibanez Racing Service Courage LC75 upgraded to Oreca01 aero specs

-Barazi - Epsilon Zytek 07S - Zytek ????? Caparo assistance

-Strakka Racing Acura/Honda ARX01

-Araxa Racing Porsche RS?

-Jota sport??? maybe one P2 Ginetta or old Zytek

-JAS Motorsport?? maybe Acura ARX01 if they get money enough, probably renamed to Honda

GT1

-Luc Alphand Maybe in GT2? 2 cars

-Gigawave Nissan 1 car

-Vitaphone? Maserati 1 or 2 cars?

-Hexis???? Aston??? maybe 1 car

-Larbre Saleen?

-All the Fia GT1 are possible entries specially at the race before the 24 hours

GT2

-AF Corse with Alesi?

-Spyker maybe a new car or a evolution?

-Alpina??? BMW??? Probably not

-Morgan??? Maybe, they said they was interested past june, maybe 2011, maybe never

-Mostly past year teams... FBR, Modena,Fellermayr, etc

JayBMS · 31 Oct 2009, 22:17 (Ref:2573165)

Hexis are looking at the vantage for next year

carsten66 · 1 Nov 2009, 00:53 (Ref:2573213)

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Originally Posted by JayBMS

Hexis are looking at the vantage for next year

Racing where? GT2? - Remembering Hexis announced that they intend to take part in the new FIA GT1 World Championship in 2010...

JayBMS · 1 Nov 2009, 12:08 (Ref:2573367)

They havent said for the Vantage appart from that they want to go to LM, i'd guess thir best chance of that is to take part in the LMS

http://www.amr-teams.co.uk/2009/10/h...-for-2010.html

Subaru_WRX_STi · 1 Nov 2009, 13:43 (Ref:2573405)

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Originally Posted by JayBMS

Hexis are looking at the vantage for next year

Hexis Racing is stopping its GT2 Vantage effort...they will do Le Mans in GT2 only if the ACO don't accept their GT1 entry
http://www.endurance-info.com/versio...ance-2759.html

**Bentley03** · 9 Nov 2009, 13:33 (Ref:2578897)

DAILY SPORTSCAR are carrying a couple of news items courtesy of the French press (Le Maine Libre and L'Equipe)..............

Confirmation that LAA have been in talks with BMW about racing in the Le Mans Series and at Le Mans. If a BMW programme fails to materialise, they will most likely return to GT1 with Corvette (Le Maine Libre).

And secondly, it would appear that Sora/Pescarolo may be absent from ACO regs racing in 2010. Philippe Leblanc (MD of Sora Composites) has been unable to source the neccessary budget and has left the race team. Jean Py, President of Sora Composites, has now taken on the this responsibility. The article also covers a rumoured breakdown in the relationship between Henri and the Sora hierarchy, the suggestion being that Henri will move on elsewhere if no budget is found for 2010 (which seems reasonable to me). There is also a claim that there are people interested in buying the chassis, but the article doesn't specify whether this relates to the existing chassis or the purchase of brand new chassis (L'Equipe and Le Maine Libre).

JayBMS · 9 Nov 2009, 15:03 (Ref:2578963)

Audi, Pug, and a P2 acura at Misano tyre testing today,

**Bentley03** · 10 Nov 2009, 00:12 (Ref:2579247)

DAILY SPORTSCAR are carrying an interesting article regarding the options apparently being considered for the 2010 calendar:

The Paul Ricard round may be extended from 6 to 8 hours.

Portimao and Abu Dhabi most likely to fill the remaing two slots in the calendar.

But, it would appear that there is either going to be a four round Le Mans Series ending at Silverstone, plus a four round International Championship for which Silverstone would also be the first round, before moving on to PLM, Abu Dhabi and Okayama, or a seven round championship which would incorporate both of the above.

Fascinating stuff!

Fogelhund · 10 Nov 2009, 04:36 (Ref:2579303)

http://www.motorsport.com/news/artic...?ID=351764&FS=

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JAS MOTORSPORT AT THE LE MANS 24 HOURS WITH ACURA LMP2

Thanks to a well-established relationship with Honda Performance Development, Honda America's motorsport department, JAS Motorsport is developing a programme to contest the European Le Mans Series with one or two ACURA ARX-01b LMP2 sportscars next year. The programme will culminate with the most prestigious race in the world: the Le Mans 24 Hours.

cmk · 10 Nov 2009, 05:13 (Ref:2579311)

Is this anything new? Seems they are no further along with confirmed programme than they were a week or two ago. Would be nice to see though, even if it means an exodus of ARX-01b chassis from North America.

The359 · 10 Nov 2009, 05:51 (Ref:2579320)

The possibility of a second Acura is the only new bit I see.

Fogelhund · 10 Nov 2009, 12:06 (Ref:2579461)

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Originally Posted by cmk

Is this anything new? Seems they are no further along with confirmed programme than they were a week or two ago. Would be nice to see though, even if it means an exodus of ARX-01b chassis from North America.

What's new appears to be that it is official PR.

**joeb** · 10 Nov 2009, 14:33 (Ref:2579551)

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Originally Posted by Fogelhund

What's new appears to be that it is official PR.

True, but the press release ends with the telling statement:

The first target is to finalise the necessary budget before the end of the year.

so are they actually close? or is it something they want to do if funding materializes?

Japanese Samurai · 10 Nov 2009, 16:08 (Ref:2579603)

According to Sports-carracing.net,
RS spyder of team Goh seems to be sold to not European team but Japanese team.
http://www.sports-carracing.net/2009...ialedition.htm

Japanese Samurai · 10 Nov 2009, 16:33 (Ref:2579609)

And, they said that Oak racing would newly begin the LMP1 program.
They seem to cooperate with an unexpected constructor.

The359 · 10 Nov 2009, 17:20 (Ref:2579631)

Seems odd for OAK to abandon the Mazda backing...

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