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Old 17 Dec 2013, 17:42 (Ref:3345093)   #26
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Sad for you, but let's hope Allan always enjoys his life. Is the Porsche P1 line up confirmed?
And I think Audi #3 di Grassi, Marc Gene and Jarvis is pretty much confirmed as is the case this year?
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Old 17 Dec 2013, 17:44 (Ref:3345095)   #27
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Is the Porsche P1 line up confirmed?
Neither Porsche nor Audi line-ups are.

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Old 17 Dec 2013, 18:32 (Ref:3345105)   #28
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no, why? Always thought him to be one of the best drivers out there, shame really
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Old 17 Dec 2013, 18:45 (Ref:3345111)   #29
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Strong list Beetle. No complaints with any of that. A few of the driver line-ups will shake themselves out before Silverstone and hopefully soon we can add some more teams.
I'm trying to avoid compulsive posting and entry speculation on this one, unlike the 2013 Le Mans thread!

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I've been wondering about Larbre also. Hope they return with the Corvette so we can have some American muscle in
the GT classes. Not hopeful of seeing a viper though.
Probably not much of a chance of seeing a Viper -- they did mention expanding internationally, but only with the SRT Viper GT3, not the GTS-R. I think we'll have to wait until the GTE/GT3 merger is put in place to see a Viper in the WEC, unfortunately.

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WHAAAAAAAT?

Allan McNish retires from racing

Audi Sport did tweet about "some important news to come", never in a million years would I have expected this.

EDIT: It's big enough news to warrant its own thread I suspect. http://tentenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=140294
That's massive news... really sad, he was a world-class addition to the WEC. I'll miss his presence in racing greatly.

On the bright side, I hope he enjoys his retirement.

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- Prospeed Competition drivers should be the same drivers fom last year.
- Super GT driver Naoki Yamamoto should partner with Makowiecki, and the third driver might be Dumas, Pilet or any other driver.
- Any Japansese driver should be confirmed for the second Strakka Racing number.
- Kobayashi should stay in the WEC.
For anything GTE, it can't be Dumas... he's signed full time with the Porsche 919 Hybrid LMP1. Unless he pulls a Scott Tucker and drives two cars over the course of one race... not sure what the rules about that are. Nevertheless, I'm sure they can find an adequate replacement for a 3rd driver.

Sorry, I won't accept those "requests", unless you can provide some direct sources. Otherwise, it's just educated guessing. I agree, though - I think we should see a few Japanese drivers with Strakka.

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Neither Porsche or Audi line-ups are.
No, they aren't -- the only reason I put them on the OP was because all of the drivers were confirmed. Plus it was on Wikipedia... THANKS A LOT FstrthnU!!

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Sad for you, but let's hope Allan always enjoys his life. Is the Porsche P1 line up confirmed?
And I think Audi #3 di Grassi, Marc Gene and Jarvis is pretty much confirmed as is the case this year?
Not for full-season... perhaps for Spa and Le Mans but not for the other six. The only way I can see it happening is if the tests don't go well and they feel disadvantaged for 2014.
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Old 17 Dec 2013, 20:00 (Ref:3345133)   #30
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In addition to what is on the front page, I think we can expect Corvette Racing and SRT Motorsports to return to Le Mans next year even without announcements yet.

Craft Racing has also announced that they will enter GTE-Am with a Vantage GTE rented from Aston Martin Racing.

Patrick Dempsey will also be in some sort of Porsche next year, be it his own or one of the European teams.
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Old 17 Dec 2013, 22:32 (Ref:3345191)   #31
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I suspect and hope that Toyota will be the ones to beat on 2014. They were clearly caught napping in 2013, but with limited resources closed the gap and ended the year the fastest.

Also if Toyota are in the mix then there is no chance of any team games between Audi and Porsche.
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Old 17 Dec 2013, 22:48 (Ref:3345194)   #32
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I think the reason Toyota caught up with Audi is that Audi already knew they had it in the bag, and started shifting their resources more towards the development of next year's car, as they have done before. Last year for example! Remember how much better they were in the beginning of this year, while Toyota ruled at the ending of last year?
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Old 17 Dec 2013, 23:23 (Ref:3345210)   #33
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Have to agree with Vince.

I think Toyota will have the car to beat... by the end of 2014.
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Old 18 Dec 2013, 02:05 (Ref:3345258)   #34
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TMG's goal is to win Le Mans, they can't afford to play catchup every season or else they will never get there.

With Porsche now being there too they can't even hope for a freak year a la Peugeot in 2010 to happen to Audi. In oder to win it now, you have to have the outright speed when June comes around.

I don't doubt that TMG learned from this season, the question is will they get the budget to make it happen. They're clearly starting with a disadvantage once again, having by far the smallest amount of time to get their new car ready.
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Old 18 Dec 2013, 02:07 (Ref:3345259)   #35
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I think the reason Toyota caught up with Audi is that Audi already knew they had it in the bag, and started shifting their resources more towards the development of next year's car, as they have done before. Last year for example! Remember how much better they were in the beginning of this year, while Toyota ruled at the ending of last year?
This all may be true, but Toyota personnel were clearly thinking along those same lines. They scratched the #7 for Interlagos and CoTA to focus on development for the new car. Also, I don't think Toyota won just because Audi decided to turn down the wick when they wrapped up the championship in Shanghai. They were running a bit slower at Shanghai in 2012 than in 2013 -- and it's the same exact configuration, same car, same drivers. Perhaps Toyota simply beats Audi at the Tilkedromes?
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Old 18 Dec 2013, 07:35 (Ref:3345324)   #36
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Toyota caught them because they ran a new package and the tracks favored their hybrid. Audi has the hp in the bag, theres nothing to go over about it. You cant just burn more fuel and go faster like Audi did in the Toyota. But they actually went faster and further on a stint over 2012. Not much you can do about the diesel when the rules are already written but ask for help, which was given. This is whats exciting about next year. As far as the car, its been in the works since the rules were written. They aren't missing much when most of the r&d can be done in cologne.
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This all may be true, but Toyota personnel were clearly thinking along those same lines. They scratched the #7 for Interlagos and CoTA to focus on development for the new car.
But the reason for scratching was budget... and despite shifting focus on 2014 like Audi, because of the budget, they're still like inherently disadvantaged.
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Old 18 Dec 2013, 09:26 (Ref:3345354)   #38
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Since McNish's retirement, the third driver seat for the #1 Audi is open. Who's gonna be the third driver for the team?

It's really hard to say which driver should join the team IMO...
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Old 18 Dec 2013, 09:29 (Ref:3345358)   #39
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For anything GTE, it can't be Dumas... he's signed full time with the Porsche 919 Hybrid LMP1. Unless he pulls a Scott Tucker and drives two cars over the course of one race... not sure what the rules about that are. Nevertheless, I'm sure they can find an adequate replacement for a 3rd driver.

Sorry, I won't accept those "requests", unless you can provide some direct sources. Otherwise, it's just educated guessing. I agree, though - I think we should see a few Japanese drivers with Strakka.
1. Didn't realised that Romain Dumas will be in LMP1 Pnsche, sorry. He was always a GTE-Pro driver for the Porshe team.
2. Anything about Scott Tucker?
3. SUPREME IGNORABILITY IMO! I have absolutely NO IDEA if there's other news for the teams.
4. Collard, Perrodo and Crubilé should stay in the Prospeed team, then let's find out.
5. That's okay with Strakka.
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I saw one too, just don't have the link right now. Said they were keeping Fisi and the other drivers but may change their lineups
It sounds like the same article I saw too.

Plus with Porsche confirming they're are staying in GT PRO with a factory team, I believe Ferrari would want AF Corse to stay and defend its honor.
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1. Didn't realised that Romain Dumas will be in LMP1 Pnsche, sorry. He was always a GTE-Pro driver for the Porshe team.
2. Anything about Scott Tucker?
3. SUPREME IGNORABILITY IMO! I have absolutely NO IDEA if there's other news for the teams.
4. Collard, Perrodo and Crubilé should stay in the Prospeed team, then let's find out.
5. That's okay with Strakka.
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I saw one too, just don't have the link right now. Said they were keeping Fisi and the other drivers but may change their lineups
See second part: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/111742
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http://sportscar365.com/wec/larbre-a...-c7-r-in-2014/

Larbre aiming to run a NEW C7.R in WEC GTE-AM? A new car in AM? So much for the rules.
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“Complications regarding the homologation of Corvette’s new C7.R mean we can’t yet confirm our 2014 plans, but we will go back to the team’s roots in order to create new challenges which we’ll announce as early as January,” team principal Jack Leconte said in a statement.
Maybe a Viper IF the ACO doesn´t honor their request?
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More than larbre request, I think that is GM who is lobbying ACO to allow the new C7R to take part at WEC in gt-am class. It would be a good move to promote the car in europe, south america and asia.
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It would violate one of the key rules of GT-AM though. As much as I like Labre, the ACO can't really allow it.

They can always choose to race in GT-Pro.
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I agree that it would be a good move for GM to promote the car in Europe, but if that is their desire, run it in the PRO category with the rest of the PRO cars.
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I agree that it would be a good move for GM to promote the car in Europe, but if that is their desire, run it in the PRO category with the rest of the PRO cars.
Too risky, without PM assistance and GM drivers, team larbre has 0% chances to be competitive against AMR, ferrari and porsche official teams. Corvette will finish last also in the GT manufacturers cup, not the best way to promote a car.
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It would violate one of the key rules of GT-AM though. As much as I like Labre, the ACO can't really allow it.
So does the 2014 Porsche 911 RSR. That car is allowed in GTE-Pro and GTE-Am. Just because it did 1 race in 2014 configuration, but it is still a new for 2014 design in my eyes.
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Too risky, without PM assistance and GM drivers, team larbre has 0% chances to be competitive against AMR, ferrari and porsche official teams. Corvette will finish last also in the GT manufacturers cup, not the best way to promote a car.
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So does the 2014 Porsche 911 RSR. That car is allowed in GTE-Pro and GTE-Am. Just because it did 1 race in 2014 configuration, but it is still a new for 2014 design in my eyes.
My vote is get rid of the year old car rule. If the rule was put in place to keep costs down, the ACO shouldn't have allowed teams to buy new cars and convert back to an older spec - that is a waste. They have also allowed updates to cars (Astons) in the class for various reasons, so just simplify things by allowing new machinery.
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