[LM24] LM24 '22 Raceweek Thread

[Adam43]

Originally Posted by broadrun96

Well that Glick is a bit pre-owned.

Guess I should be admonished for watching the race to watch each team race to the finish and over come time and track. Guess I should demand all cars be on lead lap and track record pace all the time so there's excitement

Didn’t think it was that big a hit. Effect rather than cause.

Shame. A moment of madness can happen for anyone.

Whether that is a sensor, a clutch, or a stupid moment first lap out of the pits.

[Adam43]

Kick the car - that’ll do it

[porsche962fan]

Originally Posted by Adam43

Don’t worry, you don’t have to watch. Feel lucky, you’ve gain lots of free time. Feel bad because you know how endurance racing works and what the entry was before it started.

Could it be like some of those ‘80s races where the Porsche had no real competition and you’d get an 8 lap winning margin?

have you actually watched 80s Le Mans ? Porsche dominance was just from 82 to 85 and from 83 onwoards there were at least hoards of priavateers in Porsches that could win and beat the factory cars which really did happen in 1985

from 1986 onwards very strong competition from Jaguar and later Sauber Mercedes showed up as well as japanese cars of Toyota and Nissan those were very exiting times, not to forget the cars themselves brutal monsters with no electronics, classic H-shifter , those were real drivers

[gert]

Originally Posted by airbusA346

Abril in #61

And Abril gets a 1 min stop/go for it

[airbusA346]

1 minute stop and go penalty for #61 for hitting #93.

[Toyotats03OUS]

Originally Posted by joeb

What happened, I can't watch or listen

The #708 Glick is in the garage after Oliver Plat spawn out on his out lap, from looking at the incident the car just barely touched the wall. fast forward now the car is still in the garage and about 5 laps down. I do not have all the details.

[Adam43]

Originally Posted by porsche962fan

have you actually watched 80s Le Mans ?

Yes. Although not live as I first went in 1990.

Just pulling your leg.

There is lots to enjoy.

And my general point that by most measures being applied here Le Mans is boring. We get these massive gaps! Especially in the '80s.

[broadrun96]

Originally Posted by Toyotats03OUS

The #708 Glick is in the garage after Oliver Plat spawn out on his out lap, from looking at the incident the car just barely touched the wall. fast forward now the car is still in the garage and about 5 laps down. I do not have all the details.

It's out and 14 places down from where it was. Multiple parts and suspension bits replaced at rear and nose damage. Jim seemed like everything is good and ready to run again

[Toyotats03OUS]

according to Glick, the car sustained suspension damage. That was a very costly mistake by Oliver Plat.

[canaglia]

Originally Posted by porsche962fan

have you actually watched 80s Le Mans ? Porsche dominance was just from 82 to 85 and from 83 onwoards there were at least hoards of priavateers in Porsches that could win and beat the factory cars which really did happen in 1985

from 1986 onwards very strong competition from Jaguar and later Sauber Mercedes showed up as well as japanese cars of Toyota and Nissan those were very exiting times, not to forget the cars themselves brutal monsters with no electronics, classic H-shifter , those were real drivers

agree, well porsche dominated all 80's up to 1987 but porsche big advantage was to have a lot of cars in grid with at least 2 very strong backed/work teams, in general I could resume group C in:
early -> mid '80: porsche
late '80 -> 3.5L rule: TWR jaguar vs sauber mercedes vs porsche
3.5L early 90's: peugeot

[airbusA346]

#93 back out on track!

[Adam43]

Hour 7 update

Position shown. #47 makes a little more progress.

Comparison to the 2010 race (the record distance). They are one lap ahead.
Top chart. Laps after each hour (remember it is a interger)
Middle chart. Laps ahead or behind 2010.
Bottom chart. Laps in the hour.

Been a relatively clean race so far.

Boredom index: 1986.

[airbusA346]

#777 has had a moment.

[Toyotats03OUS]

Toyota #7 Mike Conway to the lead

[fieldodreams79]

Originally Posted by Adam43

Hour 7 update

Position shown. #47 makes a little more progress.

Comparison to the 2010 race (the record distance). They are one lap ahead.
Top chart. Laps after each hour (remember it is a interger)
Middle chart. Laps ahead or behind 2010.
Bottom chart. Laps in the hour.

Been a relatively clean race so far.

Boredom index: 1986.

Brilliant!! Well done, Paul Jr

[broadrun96]

Originally Posted by Toyotats03OUS

Toyota #7 Mike Conway to the lead

Wondering if that's a Seb, Mike is faster moment there cause he SHOT past him

[porsche962fan]

Originally Posted by Adam43

Yes. Although not live as I first went in 1990.

Just pulling your leg.

There is lots to enjoy.

And my general point that by most measures being applied here Le Mans is boring. We get these massive gaps! Especially in the '80s.

the most exiting le Mans was the 90s !! strong GT and rather slow and fragile LMP cars meant that both categories could win and it really did happen

94 GT
95 GT
96 LMP
97 LMP
98 GT
99 LMP

lots of manufactuers small and big and great variety in cars, this was true golden era of le Mans , not the overregulate crap we have now

nowadays the ACO is so afraid that other than the top category has a chance to win it...

[Adam43]

Originally Posted by canaglia

agree, well porsche dominated all 80's up to 1987 but porsche big advantage was to have a lot of cars in grid with at least 2 very strong backed/work teams, in general I could resume group C in:
early -> mid '80: porsche
late '80 -> 3.5L rule: TWR jaguar vs sauber mercedes vs porsche
3.5L early 90's: peugeot

It was all ace.

Even when it was superficially dull.

Endurance racing rocks.

[Adam43]

Originally Posted by porsche962fan

the most exiting le Mans was the 90s !! strong GT and rather slow and fragile LMP cars meant that both categories could win and it really did happen

94 GT
95 GT
96 LMP
97 LMP
98 GT
99 LMP

lots of manufactuers small and big and great variety in cars, this was true golden era of le Mans , not the overregulate crap we have now

Apart from the contrived rules. That meant the rule makers defined who won by choosing fuel tank size, tyre size and other differences.

[Toyotats03OUS]

Originally Posted by broadrun96

Wondering if that's a Seb, Mike is faster moment there cause he SHOT past him

Yes, that is what it looked like.

[Adam43]

They've kicked the 93 back into shape and it back out of the pits!

[broadrun96]

Originally Posted by porsche962fan

the most exiting le Mans was the 90s !! strong GT and rather slow and fragile LMP cars meant that both categories could win and it really did happen



94 GT

95 GT

96 LMP

97 LMP

98 GT

99 LMP



lots of manufactuers small and big and great variety in cars, this was true golden era of le Mans , not the overregulate crap we have now

Then the available options are:

buy the ACO and a time machine to make that every year
Turn off and don't support any of the sponsors or manufacturers involved
Turn off the TV and just ignore it exists any longer
Watch the old races on YouTube every year and pretend it's live

Notice how whinging on here to affect change is not on that list

[Adam43]

Look race fans!

#13

[broadrun96]

Originally Posted by Adam43

They've kicked the 93 back into shape and it back out of the pits!

Never under estimate the power of the boot for fixing things, it's all properly sorted and a bit of WHY WON'T YOU WORK Homer repair so it's good


And I've decided I would not have ever been accepted as a Porsche mechanic. 99% sure me jumping on the hood of a 911 wouldn't go well but their guys just bounce right off like nothing

[tomcug]

Originally Posted by Toyotats03OUS

according to Glick, the car sustained suspension damage. That was a very costly mistake by Oliver Plat.

Don't want to be harsh there but accidents and Olivier like each other. That was exactly the reason why he had to say goodbye to Meyer Shank last year in IMSA.