ILMC /LMS Imola 6 Hours - Round 4 - July 1-3, 2011 - Page 8

chernaudi · 1 Jul 2011, 18:35 (Ref:2909552)

Does anyone think that Audi and Peugeot might add downforce as the weekend goes on?

It seems that both cars were running hybrid LM/sprint aero (the 908 running the LM nose and Audi were not running the full sprint diveplane/gurney package) hoping that the track would rubber in before changing their set ups. That, of course, was before the storms rolled in and basically rained out the second practice.

With Imola being laid out the way it is, you'd think that it would favor the higher downforce cars, but neither Audi or Peugeot are really running (as of yet) full high downforce packages (most gasoline LMP1s were from the few photos I've seen), and it sort of shows--the 908 being about 10km/h or about 6mph faster in the speed trap, in spite of similar laptimes and the fastest Audi and Pug ideal laps were separated by less than .2 of a second.

Were Audi and Peugeot just feeling out the track by running a base set up (by timing and scoring it didn't seem like they were really pushing yet), or do they have plans to stick with the current aero or change their setups as track conditions require?

I do think that in race trim that the higher downforce should pay off, as it makes the car more predictable/manuverable in traffic, and should be easier on its tires.

**joeb** · 1 Jul 2011, 18:44 (Ref:2909558)

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Originally Posted by chernaudi

Does anyone think that Audi and Peugeot might add downforce as the weekend goes on?

I don't know, but I'm sure all the teams were not happy with the rain today. since nobody has setup info for this track, I bet everyone wanted as much time on the track as possible to try different things.

Audi Racer · 1 Jul 2011, 19:27 (Ref:2909574)

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeb

I don't know, but I'm sure all the teams were not happy with the rain today. since nobody has setup info for this track, I bet everyone wanted as much time on the track as possible to try different things.

But the top teams atleast have setup work from the simulator. HPD does alot of that.

Acid09 · 1 Jul 2011, 19:38 (Ref:2909579)

Wirth does have a top of the line simulator yes, I haven't seen anything like that from Audi and Peugeot though.

courageous · 1 Jul 2011, 19:59 (Ref:2909584)

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Originally Posted by Bernard Bram

Nice weather

red flag thunderbolt & lightning (very very frightning)

3 of the past 4 events I have gone to have had heavy rain red flags - am starting to think I am a jinx

Rennen · 1 Jul 2011, 20:37 (Ref:2909602)

Practice 1 Dry
#7 Pug 1.34.227 27 laps
#2 Audi 1.34.723 36 laps
#8 Pug 1.35.102 29 laps
#2 Audi 1.36.143 32 laps

Practice 2 (Very Wet)
#7 Pug 1.53.553 21 laps
#8 Pug 1.53.302 17 laps
#46 TDS 1.54.457 27 laps
#2 Audi 1.56.804 9 laps

cdsvg · 2 Jul 2011, 08:59 (Ref:2913812)

Interesting that Peugeot are using the LM front end - seems to be that this is now the package the car will run at all races, and theyll just dial in a bit more wing where needed. So perhaps the Sebring front-end was a one-off.

airbusA346 · 2 Jul 2011, 09:17 (Ref:2913821)

Is the #77 Felbermayr Porsche now using paddle shift?

Tom.

Tom908V12 · 2 Jul 2011, 09:32 (Ref:2913828)

Can't wait for this afternoon qualifying practice

ianroke · 2 Jul 2011, 10:29 (Ref:2913839)

Live timing at http://livetiming.alkamelsystems.com/lms/ for those interested.

Updates in real time with sector times.

arakis · 2 Jul 2011, 11:09 (Ref:2913852)

will the qualifying be streemes or shown on tv, thanks

sceptic · 2 Jul 2011, 11:24 (Ref:2913855)

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Originally Posted by joeb

I'm not familiar with this track, but is there an orchard in the middle? On the Google Earth images there seems to be rows of trees.

It's a park in the middle. It's very nice actually, even a pond with ducks.

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Originally Posted by arakis

will the qualifying be streemes or shown on tv, thanks

No, qualifying isn't televised.

Rennen · 2 Jul 2011, 11:26 (Ref:2913859)

Quote:

Originally Posted by arakis

will the qualifying be streemes or shown on tv, thanks

No TV Coverage Damn it! Eurosport are concerntrating on stuff with 2 wheels today! Doh!

Try the Live Streaming tho...Pug or Audi sites. Fingers Crossed!

Rennen · 2 Jul 2011, 11:28 (Ref:2913861)

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdsavage

Interesting that Peugeot are using the LM front end - seems to be that this is now the package the car will run at all races, and theyll just dial in a bit more wing where needed. So perhaps the Sebring front-end was a one-off.

See, Small Budget!

Dead-Eye · 2 Jul 2011, 11:30 (Ref:2913863)

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Originally Posted by Rennen

See, Small Budget!

So small they can develop an aero package for one-time use?

Victor_RO · 2 Jul 2011, 11:34 (Ref:2913864)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dead-Eye

So small they can develop an aero package for one-time use?

Think he's talking about the Sebring aero package being a bit of a hackjob from the old 908.

ianroke · 2 Jul 2011, 11:36 (Ref:2913865)

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Originally Posted by Victor_RO

Think he's talking about the Sebring aero package being a bit of a hackjob from the old 908.

Let's be honest the new 908 is a hack job of the old 908 anyway!

Audi Racer · 2 Jul 2011, 11:48 (Ref:2913868)

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Originally Posted by ianroke

Let's be honest the new 908 is a hack job of the old 908 anyway!

In a sense.....But the old 908 was dominant. Why change anything. they did a little aero work. the weird thing is it looks similar but its completely different underneath the aero kit

cdsvg · 2 Jul 2011, 12:02 (Ref:2913877)

http://www.dailymotion.com/sas/peugeot-sport-endurance may or may not have some video during qualifying...

Audi Racer · 2 Jul 2011, 12:06 (Ref:2913880)

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Originally Posted by cdsavage

http://www.dailymotion.com/sas/peugeot-sport-endurance may or may not have some video during qualifying...

It might. theres a little streamer saying qualy begins at 14:25. let just hope

Deleted · 2 Jul 2011, 12:13 (Ref:2913881)

Why on earth doesn't #51 put Gimmi on quali run instead of Fisi?!

Audi Racer · 2 Jul 2011, 12:15 (Ref:2913882)

Fisichella has gotten really fast...

Deleted · 2 Jul 2011, 12:17 (Ref:2913883)

Fisi is good but no Bruni, probably the best qualifier of the entire field... wasted now.

Audi Racer · 2 Jul 2011, 12:19 (Ref:2913884)

Why are their comparing Scott Tucker to Fred Makowiecki. Fred Mako is head and shoudlers above Scott tucker as a driver.....

Fred is currently 3 tenths off the GTE pole. ....And the fastest Third Sector of all GT cars.

Audi Racer · 2 Jul 2011, 12:27 (Ref:2913888)

contrary to Hindaugh....I think Audi gets the pole...

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