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Old 10 Mar 2022, 14:28 (Ref:4101947)   #91
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Yep, that all makes sense....
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Old 10 Mar 2022, 14:55 (Ref:4101948)   #92
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After missing 20 and 21, wild horses couldn't keep me away.

Agreed. Of course I would like Peugeot to be there, and a works Aston GTE Pro entry and more than one non-ORECA (shout out to CD Sport's lonely Ligier), but it's more than just the entry list that gets me there.


And I need to get back into the swing of things before the big one next year.
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Old 10 Mar 2022, 15:44 (Ref:4101956)   #93
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Even with the cars on the reserve list, this is a strong entry. So many cars in the "am" classes have a legitimate shot.

Speaking of reserve list, with so much uncertainty right now, is it possible we will see some attrition from the entry?
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Old 10 Mar 2022, 18:22 (Ref:4101981)   #94
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Agreed. Of course I would like Peugeot to be there, and a works Aston GTE Pro entry and more than one non-ORECA (shout out to CD Sport's lonely Ligier), but it's more than just the entry list that gets me there.


And I need to get back into the swing of things before the big one next year.
Absolutely, my thoughts exactly. Those who haven't been perhaps don't appreciate that Le Mans is a lot more than just a motor race......

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Even with the cars on the reserve list, this is a strong entry. So many cars in the "am" classes have a legitimate shot.

Speaking of reserve list, with so much uncertainty right now, is it possible we will see some attrition from the entry?
Entirely possible I think Joe.
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Old 10 Mar 2022, 18:40 (Ref:4101990)   #95
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It’s amazing really how the world is in the shape it is (Covid, Russia/Ukraine) yet this is probably the highest demand they’ve had for a Le Mans entry in a long time
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It’s amazing really how the world is in the shape it is (Covid, Russia/Ukraine) yet this is probably the highest demand they’ve had for a Le Mans entry in a long time
Exactly, we have the end of a pandemic, war, famine around the world and people moan about how many Ferraris and LMP2s are on the grid. There will be 62 cars starting, 24 hours of the race, and we cab be there, we need to be grateful for what we have.

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Old 10 Mar 2022, 19:35 (Ref:4102002)   #97
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Exactly, we have the end of a pandemic, war, famine around the world and people moan about how many Ferraris and LMP2s are on the grid. There will be 62 cars starting, 24 hours of the race, and we cab be there, we need to be grateful for what we have.

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Old 22 Mar 2022, 10:39 (Ref:4103806)   #98
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Racing Team Nederland and High Class Racing consider pulling their entries from the reserve list.

Interesting comments from both on the impact on Dutch and Danish interest in the race without them.

https://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/...serve-entries/
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Old 22 Mar 2022, 11:24 (Ref:4103809)   #99
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It is a difficult one - ACO has to prioritise WEC/ELMS and Asian Le Mans Series entries and allow top teams from IMSA as well.
Also it is a bit unfair to leave out teams that have been part of ACO racing and have a considerable following because they switched series.
I do not want to be the person/committee that has to make final decisions on this matter
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It is a difficult one - ACO has to prioritise WEC/ELMS and Asian Le Mans Series entries and allow top teams from IMSA as well.
Also it is a bit unfair to leave out teams that have been part of ACO racing and have a considerable following because they switched series.
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Me on the other hand would love to be on it. First thing I would propose, is a transparent ranking system so everyone knows what would required to be considered and how the selections are made.

And on top of that consider having some sort of qualifying session/race for the last remaining 2-4 spots, reserving at least one for a prototype and one for a GT. Again, based on transparent qualifications to determine eligibility. This would give longtime supporting teams and drivers the opportunity to at least compete for an entry.
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Old 22 Mar 2022, 13:16 (Ref:4103832)   #101
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If I remember correctly there was pre-qualifying up to the 90s/2000s
But back then Le Mans was not part of a championship so did not have to keep to entry requirements.

Easy solution: Build more pit boxes and allow more cars to enter :P - joking aside considering the length of the track and the professionalism of modern teams(they are miles ahead to the average back of grid teams from even 15 years ago) , I guess the track could fit 5-10 more cars without much issue.
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I do remember the ACO wanting to run 70 cars at LM, though I don't know about the status of that plan.
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A bigger grid would just mean more teams applying because they would have a better chance of getting in. There would still be a reserve list, especially when GT3 comes along.
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Racing Team Nederland and High Class Racing consider pulling their entries from the reserve list.

Interesting comments from both on the impact on Dutch and Danish interest in the race without them.

https://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/...serve-entries/
I think there's some unsaid freight-based stuff here that means they need to pull their entries. Past a certain point they couldn't get the equipment back to Europe. Hindy alluded to it on the Sebring commentary.

Right now if you pick a four-race American calendar, these guys surely must have known they were rolling the dice. There's a direct F1 clash with LM, so the twin Magnussen entry is a non-starter. And it really wasn't a strong showing for High Class last year.

Would be interesting to hear from guys like Mathias and Nobby, but are they over-estimating their drawing power amongst their compatriots?
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just throwing thoughts at the wall and seeing if they stick here rather than basing it on firm intel. but they can always fly stuff back with a far shorter leadtime than sea freight. it's just horribly expensive and you need to make a firm decision either way fairly early on whether you're going to chance it and freight it back for a possible entry, or give up your spot and try and get some testing done instead perhaps. both teams use euro-based crews, so they'd have to fly some of them out to wherever they're basing the cars, chuck everything in a container or in airfreightable format and then fly them back again. plus there's the carnet messiness.

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Me on the other hand would love to be on it. First thing I would propose, is a transparent ranking system so everyone knows what would required to be considered and how the selections are made.
if you think about it, it's pretty transparent as it is. it's just not written down.

first shout is the auto entries from wec and the previous season.
second shout is to elms teams.
third shout, if there's any space left, goes to anyone running an eligible car elsewhere with good pedigree, and traditional wildcards.

this has been a year where entries for wec have been highly sought after, let alone elms ones. it's right to reward teams who committed to and invested in this season with aco through the squeaky bum wait for confirmed entries with le mans spots, especially this year. unfortunately by the time they'd done that to a reasonable degree there wasn't any space left. it's really easy to put yourself in their shoes and understand where they're coming from though.

the problem nowadays with suggesting qualification races and that kind of thing is that it was tough enough for teams to nail down drivers without being certain they had entries for the seasons they were committing to. now imagine trying to sign a driver for a race you can't even be sure you're going to qualify for. it's not something you can make teams and drivers do in this day and age, commercially it doesn't stand up.

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