Le Mans Series 2009

[Subaru_WRX_STi]

Originally Posted by cmk

It seems unlikely that there will be works AMR entries in GT1, so 2 JetAlliance, a Modena and a Strakka car would make up the 4 Astons we saw this year. Just a thought.

for JetAlliance not sure, this year they wanted to do Le Mans and the ACO turned off their request

[Dead-Eye]

But this year they still had the works Astons in GT1. I could see the ACO wanting a few more cars in that class so the Corvette walkover isn't completely certain from the start.

[Duff_44]

The 2009 provisional schedule has been posted:

March 8-9: Official Testing - Paul Ricard HTTT, France
April 3-5: 1000km of Catalunya - Catalunya, Spain
May 8-10: 1000km of Spa - Spa-Francorchamps, Belgium
July 31-August 2: 1000km of Algarve - Portimao, Portugal
August 28-30: 1000km of the Nürburgring - Nürburgring, Germany
September 11-13: 1000km of Silverstone - Silverstone, England

- Algarve will begin in the late afternoon and end in the dark
- Another race could be added, TBA at the prize-giving ceremony November 15th
- One of the races may be changed to two separate 500km races on the same weekend

http://www.planetlemans.com/2008/10/...ries-calendar/
http://www.lemans-series.com/fr/s03_...e.php?news=741

[deggis]

Actually good one, I didn't notice that it could also mean turning one race (event) into 2x500 format.

Btw, there is already 3 pages long thread:

http://tentenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=110402



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[Mirage M6]

Originally Posted by cmk

Nope, they're Basque, which is better than being Spanish at least!

Is there something wrong about be Spanish cmk?

Yes the company is in Basque Country, but work as a Spanish company, otherwise it wouldn't be worth for them, is wiser and allows to grow with more garantees for the future of the team

[cmk]

We were joking about ACO bigotry and the Basque language owes a lot to French, hence the joke.

[Subaru_WRX_STi]

if the Portuguese night race will be officially hold on the same week of the Spa 24 Hours, I am worried that will hurt a lot ACO relationship with SRO and the FIA

[JAG]

There are usually date changes to avoid clashes.

[airbusA346]

Originally Posted by JAG

There are usually date changes to avoid clashes.

*cough* LMS Silverstone & FIA GT Brno.

Tom.

[JAG]

Originally Posted by airbusA346

*cough* LMS Silverstone & FIA GT Brno.

Tom.

Yes but no one really cared about Brno FIA GT, it's a rich mans glorified track day.

[Lazy]

This planned rule (not only for LMS but also ALMS) to have 2-race engines next year...

any guesses how they're going to supervise this? Grid penalties (like in F1)? Makes no sense really, I mean imagine Peugeot getting a penalty and starting in 11th instead of front row. In few laps the Lion would have taken back those positions...

If it's really 2-race engines for ALMS too, incase IMSA takes adapts this, it's a bit weird, since in ALMS two regular races are same than one regular race in LMS. And how about Petit and Sebring, since theyre different in the lenght?

To me this feels like not really well thought idea. Does not really fit the picture anyway since there is no engine freeze unlike in F1 and neither spec engines. Could this hamper development?

How often the factory teams changes engines anyway?

[Subaru_WRX_STi]

Originally Posted by JAG

Yes but no one really cared about Brno FIA GT, it's a rich mans glorified track day.

are you serious ? and its strange to see many LMS hardcore fans thinking that FIA GT doens't even exist and its better that it disappear
end of the off topic lol

[Speed-King]

Originally Posted by Subaru_WRX_STi

are you serious ? and its strange to see many LMS hardcore fans thinking that FIA GT doens't even exist and its better that it disappear

Would be interesting to count the number of gentleman drivers in FIA GT and LMS. Even if you factor in the bigger gridsize in LMS, I think FIA GT is a bit more professional when it comes to the drivers. LMS is pro-driver heavy in P1, but in the other classes there are only few all-pro-cars.

[chernaudi]

Audi and Porsche say that their engines can last 30 hours between scheduled major rebuilds. In the early 80's Porsche had to make their 2.65 Indy boxer-6's last almost as long(as the ACO penalized teams who made engine changes between final practice and the race), and even the Cosworth DFVs lasted almost 30 hours in the backs of Rondeaus-those engines had to last at least 25-26+hours, and in 80 and 81 Porsche and Rondeau had the best finishing record at Le Mans as far as engine problems.

If such engines(one being a future Porsche Group C engine, and the other a slightly detuned F1 engine) could potentially last 30 hours back then, and if Audi and Porsche can make their engines last 30 hours before an overhaul, everyone else(except maybe Peugeot and Zytek-the Pug's engine rebuild schedlule is an unknown, but Famin says that a Pug engine hasn't lasted a 30 hour test without some difficulty, and the Zytek is a 4.5 liter flat-crank V8-maybe pushing relialbility) should last the required distance, even the Pug and Zytek: 2 LMS=3/4 of the 12 Hours of Sebring, and 1/3 of the 24 Hours of Le Mans.

[JAG]

Originally Posted by Subaru_WRX_STi

are you serious ? and its strange to see many LMS hardcore fans thinking that FIA GT doens't even exist and its better that it disappear
end of the off topic lol

I was joking.

But still, FIA GT is ike a high quality Porsche/Ferrari challenge.

[FIRE]

Originally Posted by JAG

I was joking.

But still, FIA GT is ike a high quality Porsche/Ferrari challenge.

Explain. Whats the difference with LMS?

[ger80]

Come on, you are dutch.
LMS has Spyker, FIA GT not.

[JAG]

P1 and P2, with more oddball GT entrants.

When a Ferrari/Porsche battle supports the above headliners you can appreciate the quality, same in the ALMS.

At one time FIA GT had Mclarens, Marcus, Mercedes, Lister, Panoz, exotica that spiced up the show. Variety was a major pulling point of the series even as late as '04.

Now grids are around the 20 mark and consist only of Ferrari, Porsche and elderly Corvettes, Astons and Saleens.

If you want a standalone GT series, it needs the variety of BPR GT, or indeed the current GT3 format.

[Mike_Wooshy]

FIA GT isnt really on my radar. Im a Prototype man! IMO the current GT regs are long in the tooth and need rejigging to help encourage more manufactures. As right now they (the rules ala GT1) arent even on the radar of manufactures that are wanting to go racing. GT2 on the other hand seems to be doing rather well.

[Dead-Eye]

http://www.gt-eins.at/cms/index.php?...=3175&Itemid=1
Racing Box plans to run two cars next year, stated it would be a british chassis, probably Zyteks.

[Rodger Davies]

Originally Posted by Lazy

This planned rule (not only for LMS but also ALMS) to have 2-race engines next year...

any guesses how they're going to supervise this? Grid penalties (like in F1)? Makes no sense really, I mean imagine Peugeot getting a penalty and starting in 11th instead of front row. In few laps the Lion would have taken back those positions...

If it's really 2-race engines for ALMS too, incase IMSA takes adapts this, it's a bit weird, since in ALMS two regular races are same than one regular race in LMS. And how about Petit and Sebring, since theyre different in the lenght?

To me this feels like not really well thought idea. Does not really fit the picture anyway since there is no engine freeze unlike in F1 and neither spec engines. Could this hamper development?

How often the factory teams changes engines anyway?

this was my first thought when I heard the rules at Silverstone; seemed to be a ludicrous rule that was just following a poor F1 one (which already pushes the limit of credibility).

[Tom908V12]

Originally Posted by NightStalk3r

I'm confident Equipe Verschuur can pull something out of the bag to be on the grid next year with an RS Spyder.

According to last rumour Verschuur could run a DOME coupé next year with Jos Verstappen as number 1 driver

[The Badger]

Ya wont see Lammers in that car then !!!..... they strongly dislike each other , dont they ?

[cmk]

That is supposedly the case, yes. On the other hand, Lammers has not been connected to Verschurr in any way and, conversely, has been connected to Horag's hoped-for though far from confirmed 09 program. Thus, if this rumour comes to fruition I doubt the selection of Verstappen will have changed the course of history in any way.

[JAG]

Originally Posted by Dead-Eye

http://www.gt-eins.at/cms/index.php?...=3175&Itemid=1
Racing Box plans to run two cars next year, stated it would be a british chassis, probably Zyteks.

How many Zyteks will that be in total, LNT, Racing Box.............

Is the Ginnetta link up enabling Zytek to offer more attractive packages?