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Old 4 Dec 2006, 08:39 (Ref:1781420)   #76
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Old 4 Dec 2006, 18:11 (Ref:1781837)   #77
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So all the Petro cars run on the SAME petro blend. and All the Desiel cars run on the same Desiel Blend. Not one blend for this car and another blend for that car.

One way to conrol HP output.

Race fuels ( Shell or Sunoco ) must be comercially availbe for Race fuel retailers. Not just Audi gets a specific Desiel blend and Pug gets another Blend.
Yes, I suppose because we now have Petrol AND Diesel cars, then for the ACO to go the "exclusive suppliers" route it is not as financially limiting because they can now sign 2 fuel deals, not just 1.
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Old 4 Dec 2006, 18:29 (Ref:1781850)   #78
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Yes, I suppose because we now have Petrol AND Diesel cars, then for the ACO to go the "exclusive suppliers" route it is not as financially limiting because they can now sign 2 fuel deals, not just 1.
Shell provides both the Race Petrol and Diesel fuels to the ACO and FIA events.

In the US Sunoco provides the Fuel to ALMS, NASCAR and most other race series.
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Shell provides both the Race Petrol and Diesel fuels to the ACO and FIA events.

In the US Sunoco provides the Fuel to ALMS, NASCAR and most other race series.
Did not Shell provide diesel in the ALMS this year for Audi? So are we going to see a fuel supplier change in the U.S. or will it stay the same and the U.S. teams will have to run Shell(petrol) at LeMans?

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ps. I was under the impression that this was just to keep the fuel common, i.e. shell has to provide the same fuel/blend to everyone.

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Did not Shell provide diesel in the ALMS this year for Audi? So are we going to see a fuel supplier change in the U.S. or will it stay the same and the U.S. teams will have to run Shell(petrol) at LeMans?

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ps. I was under the impression that this was just to keep the fuel common, i.e. shell has to provide the same fuel/blend to everyone.
YES Shell did provide the Audi's with Fuel in the US. That particular blend of Desiel the Audi's used was not avalible in the US, IIRC, untill late this year.

Sunoco and Shell are listed as sponsors / partners on the americanlemans.com web site

http://www.sunocoinc.com/site/Consumer/RaceFuels/
http://www.shell.com/home/Framework?siteId=home
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Old 30 Dec 2006, 01:13 (Ref:1801585)   #81
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I find article 19 somewhat thought provoking, in that, it so different between prototypes and GTs. In prototypes, the only concern being seperating the two classes in speed, by performance balancing at the end of the season. While in GT, they will apply performance balancing twice during the season(as deemed needed), in each individual class. Also as to the agreement between ACO/ALMS on performance adjustments, will that rectify the issue of auto invites or not. If not what did the ALMS teams gain with the ACO/ALMS agreement, other than the obvious Vette/AM debacle in 06?

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The ACO, which organizes and operates the 24 Hours of Le Mans, provides the American Le Mans Series with its rulebook. In a revolutionary development the ACO has acknowledged that its rules, which are optimized for a single 24-hour event, must show some flexibility for a multi-event series featuring diverse venues. In addition, IMSA and the ACO recently reached an agreement for the need to adjust performance of certain cars to ensure quality competition over the length of the series. It limited areas of adjustment to weight, fuel capacity, boost and restrictor size. No more than two adjustments will be allowed during the course of the season. The two groups also made a mutual commitment to enable top level independent teams to reasonably compete with full manufacturer programs and to have the procedures for all such adjustments apply to both the American Le Mans Series and the ACO administered Le Mans Series in Europe.
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This was asked earlier but I am not sure if there was a complete answer, if Peugeot doesn't use an AC unit do they still get a bigger restrictor? That looks to be a shady area that the ACO better adress.
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This was asked earlier but I am not sure if there was a complete answer, if Peugeot doesn't use an AC unit do they still get a bigger restrictor? That looks to be a shady area that the ACO better adress.
Diesel engine power (and torque readings) is less sensitive to restrictor size. Their power is more sensitive to the flow rate.
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Diesel engine power (and torque readings) is less sensitive to restrictor size. Their power is more sensitive to the flow rate.
All that diesel won't burn without oxygen. I think there is a difference and if you have the bigger restrictors and no AC unit to suck up the power you will get a fairly decent advantage.
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