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hey, sonny, maybe you should lighten up, mr "i drive racecars".
Super GT is the worlds strongest GT series, because it relies on only two classes, has long term manufacturer interest, professionals etc etc. |
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Well maybe we should take into account the thoughts of people in and related to the series!
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It would seem that the Factors of Super GT would like to see their cars being able to do some cross series racing and are already taking steps in that direction as well as bringing other GT cars to their series! So once again we have been treated to several of your petulant xenophobic jingoist posts, as per usual, on the subject! L.P.
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Good to read Horndawg Being IN the drivers seat ( current or past ) gives ppl different perscitives on the sports they love. Many things are EASY to talk about change but not always easy TOO change. Renting some go karts for a Saturday to get some drive time helps undstand seat time and racing as well. |
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If any one thinks any particular race series does not have enough enteries, OK fine. GO Start your own team and get racing.
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GT1 cars by the rules and air restrictors are fast, but not as fast as they could be. Look at the LM trap speeds, but then again they were set up for endurance racing, not shorter sprint races. Untill the GT500 cars come to race for several seasons in Europe or the US under ACO/FIA rules we will never really know. On an other note looking at the ACO GT2 rules a large displacment V8 or V10 ( viper) is at a distinct disadvantage for HP. were a 3.5 to 5 liter engine has very good power to displacement allowances. |
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As far as I am aware (feel free to correct me :P), the Goh MC12 was actually a fair amount faster than the GT500 cars on the straights, but it was losing all its time in the corners, it simply didnt create as much grip and downforce to be competetive.
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DTM cars faster? At high downforce tracks yes, but at quick circuits like Monza or Silverstone? At Oscherslaben this year the FIA GT pole time was only 2 seconds off of the DTM pole and the DTM get signifcantly more track time over the weekend than the FIA GT cars do. Im not convinced either that the Corvette that set pole was running at its ultimate pace, once it set its qualifying time it sat out the remaining 15 minutes or so of qualifying untroubled.
At circuits like Monza and Silverstone I think the FIA GT cars would be quicker than the DTM machinery, DTM cars have 480-500bhp depending on how old the car is, GT1 cars on the other hand have 600-650bhp, it really is that simple. Comparing a GT1 car to a GT500 car though I have to agree, the GT500 cars would be quicker at pretty much any circuit, the only place a GT1 car might be faster is either on a oval or in a straight line. |
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High downforce slows cars down on the straight, but gives them grip in the corners. SO the need for multipl wing and spoiler configurations based on the circuit
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We have a couple of Super GT threads already:
http://tentenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=97840 http://tentenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=98382 We've even had a GT1 vs. DTM thread: http://tentenths.com/forum/showthrea...hlight=GT1+DTM And we've even had it all rolled up in one thread: http://tentenths.com/forum/showthrea...t=DTM+Super+GT Let's keep it on topic folks. A tough task it would seem these days. |
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As I said previously, I don't think Super GT and the JLMC are direct competitors.
Super GT is attracting low end sportscar's and saloon/coupe's (Lexus, 350Z)to the GT500 class, it's increasingly performance balanced to a rediculous degree to keep manufactuers happy, it's the high tech Japanease equivalent of NASCAR. If anything the JLMC prototype ranks would be comeptitor's with Formula Nippon. I don't see why for example Nissan wouldn't run it's 350Z's in Super GT and any potential Le Mans contender in the JLMC. Super GT attract's crowds of 30k-40k per event, but in the 80's Group A touring car's AND Group C sportscar both attracted similar crowds, so there's room for two large series, so long as they are suitably different. |
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Do any SuperGT races run into the night? and what kind of race lengths does the championship feature? |
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300Kilometer races usualy, except for the Pokka 1000k at Suzuka.
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Round 3 at Fuji-SW is 500km race.
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Will AIM and Dome venture into their home series and help promote the future of it? One can only hope I guess.
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Maybe we will also see Acura and Mazda LMP2 cars. I think that Acura was recently launched in Japan, so right now they have no racing presence. Mazda also doesn't have much seeing as they don't compete in GT500 in Super GT.
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The only way I can see JLMC really taking off is if a Japanese manufacturer launches an effort in it...
Super GT has an enormous fan base in Japan so it will be hard to take it on. If Super GT cars were more FIA/ACO compliant, then it wouldn't be such a big problem with getting a good GT field. LMPs are really where the problem is. LMP2 in the JLMC has been old converted single seaters, which is more akin to the IMSA lites or whatever they're called. |
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