Cooper T79

[Steve Wilkinson]

The T79 was a one-off being driven by McLaren in the Tasman series during 1964/5. John Love then acquired it and running the car in South African F1 races. It eventually ended up with John McCartney who ran it in hillclimbs and sprints in the 1980s manily in the North of England.

What was the chassis number? Possibly FT-1-64?

[Pete Stowe]

According to my notes from that time it was FL-1-65

[allenbrown]

It was definitely FL-1-65 but there is some doubt about whether it should be designated T74 or T79. I prefer T79.

Tiny Littler drove it in libre for a few years when it first came back to the UK. John got it one or two owners later.

Allen

[Steve Wilkinson]

That's great. Another chassis number logged for the British Sprint Championship database!

Thanks lads!

[allenbrown]

When did it run in sprints Steve? If I'd known, I'd have given you that number before.

[WouterM]

The car was at Silverstone last week and according the info sheet it was chassis F1-1-64.

[Alan Brown]

Originally Posted by WouterM

The car was at Silverstone last week and according the info sheet it was chassis F1-1-64.

The chassis plate said FL/1/64. This would make it, according to my beliefs, a T79. Whereas FL1-1-64 would be a T69 or T71.

Alan Brown

[Alan Brown]

I mean F1-1-64 would be a T69 or T71 or T73.

But Allen Brown has FL1/1/64 as a T74. This car has been known in recent years as a T79.

Alan Brown

[allenbrown]

Originally Posted by Alan Brown

But Allen Brown has FL1/1/64 as a T74.

I do?

Let's try to clear this up:

1) The cars used for the Jan/Feb 1964 Tasman races were FL-1-64 and FL-2-64 and are generally accepted to have been Type 70s. One of these was updated for the 1965 Tasman series.

2) The 1964 F1 cars were F1-1-64 and F1-2-64 and are generally accepted to have been Type 73s. A third car numbered F1-3-64 was part T71 and part T73 and was built for Bob Gerard. It was also at Silverstone.

3) The car used by McLaren for the Jan/Feb 1965 Tasman races was - I believe - FL-1-65 and is generally regarded as a T79 (although some contemporary reports call it a T74).

I've never heard of FL1-1-64 and thought that was a typo.

Note, I use a dash instead of an oblique in Cooper chassis numbers only for reasons of legibility (as per Mr Nye).

Allen

[John Turner]

[allenbrown]

F1-1-64 was a F1 T73 wasn't it?

[ghinzani]

Paul Edwards drove it at Goodwood in '01, fresh from many years storage. He said it was like a dragster, quick in a straightline but a beast in the corners!

[Racingreen]

Dear All,
I am the owner of the ex Norman Racing Cooper T71 - F2-2-64, Tony Hegebourne's Berlin GP winning car. We are in the middle of its restoration and are putting some latter rear end modifications (post '66) back to "standard". I am writing this post to see if anyone knows the whereabouts of F2-1-64 or F2-3-64, the two sister cars?
Thanks,
David.

[John Turner]

Welcome, David.

[John Lindsay]

David
I have a Cooper T7? that may be one of them but presently has no chassis plate.



The car first appeared in Canada in either 1967 or 1968. I have found race results from 1968 and 69 with an SCA ,Hewland and 10 JAP wheels on back


Details – chassis was never hit all details are original except roll bar – no other welding on chassis . Most everbody I have talked to , that is into Coopers with a similar car ,believes it is a special order because of the details of the build .Some say it is a T75 but a few have said a T73 and one expert F2 - 3- 64.

Woody of the CCC says the car has elements of the T72 and some of T75 . . He also has never seen one with the engine access panel opening in the right rear side. . This was a factory original detail .
Details
Built for a 30degree or so Ford (with side access open to distributor ) or BRM ( I don't know how a BRM mounts). Had SCA in period

Hewland Mk4 # 287 5 speed
Right hand shifter
No front reaction rods
3 gas tanks – one to left of driver- no one knows of more than 2 - must be for long races - suggests it was a special order
F2 battery box
F2 wheels
Flitch plates at dash and seat bulkheads ( stiffeners )
Had a chassis plate in correct location – tits are still there
Small dash
Lower chassis rear anti roll bar

Short engine cover with bubble and mesh over carbs
High Centre exhaust

The car is presently awaiting restoration once I know the correct build . It is complete less engine and nose and has been apart since 1970

I'll post pictures when I learn how or can send them to someone for posting

Any help ,leads etc would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
John Lindsay
E mail lotus69ca@hotmail.com
H 905 685 3918

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[John Lindsay]

This is at Mosport 1968

[John Lindsay]

From the looks on the faces the car must have just arrived

[John Lindsay]

Mosport

[eric petersen]

hello cooper community,
i hope you can help me . i need some informations about the Cooper T75 F2 #8 from 65. Specially the historic Drivers and Owners and about race resultats. Thank you for some informations . eric@phoneattack.com

[mikestow]

I think I can answer John Lindsay's problem.The first photos of his car when "arrived" look the same as a Cooper T76 I owned in 1968.I bought it from a Hillclimber ,Jack Maurice,who then ran a Ferrari 250LM instead!!It was fitted with a 1100 Holbay Downdraught with twin 40 DNL Webber carbs,Not a SCA,and a Hewland Mk4 5 Speed /LSD;The final proof was it had JAP Magna 10in rears with Cooper 7 in Fronts fitted with Dunlop 970s,just as in the photo above.The colour was French Blue with the Cooper white stripes and White nose ,and the same Engine Cover as shown and up/over Exhaust.I raced it in Monoposto and Club until a Cooper T83 came up.I crashed that at Snetterton,and sold the T76 and 83 to Robs Lamplough end of 68.As I have explained on the Brabham thread, in the 60s and 70s you had to register your Car with the RAC for a "Carnet" to take it overseas.When you were not racing abroad ,it was common to lend Chassis number plates + the Carnet to Friends with similar cars to short cut red tape and beaurocracy,so if you look closely at Race Programs you can easily get confused as 2 cars may be racing at the same time in different places!!One in England and one abroad with the ?Same Chassis!!!I lent the Chassis plate from F3 19 65 to a friend,who was racing in France and Scandinavia,and did not get it back,before it was sold to Robs Lamplough who had then already sold it on-I still have it!!On the back of the plate is scratched the name Kinnanen,who was the first owner in F3 in 1965.It was totally Standard as a F3 Car with a revised Rollover bar,unmodified from that spec,apart from Engine/Gearbox when I sold it.Hope this helps,and I have sent photos of the Car and the Chassis Plate to John.Mike Stow

[John Lindsay]

Mike
Than you for the wonderful news - it is definitely the same car .Nice to know the history. I'll let Woody at the Cooper Car Club know as we have been trying to identify iy
Thanks
John Lindsay

[allenbrown]

John, are you still following this thread?

Jack Maurice was 6th overall at Castle Howard 13 October 1968 in a 1.5-litre Cooper T76-Ford. Sounds like Monoposto specification.