LM24 Le Mans Entry List 2006 - Page 2

19dodge · 21 Feb 2006, 23:45 (Ref:1528645)

yes, the embargo was until the 22nd of Feb. French time

It is 12:44 AM right now in France.

But yes, i agree that the list was discussed before the 12:00 AM time in France. My site did not post the list until the embargo was lifted (at 12:00 AM GMT +1 time)

I remember we had a similar issue happen last year too (people/sites posting the list before the embargo was lifted)

Wout · 22 Feb 2006, 07:32 (Ref:1528767)

To solve this problem they should get rid of embargoing information.

**Bentley03** · 22 Feb 2006, 08:01 (Ref:1528783)

I'm most pleased to see that Lister will definitely be back at Le Mans this year.........

Can't work out why Chamberlain are down as LMP2. The car's been sold, maybe the entry was also sold as part of the package? Just a thought.........

EliseGT1 · 22 Feb 2006, 08:47 (Ref:1528832)

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Originally Posted by paul-collins

There is a thread that I moved out of sight until tomorrow, that had info gained from sites who ignored an embargo. It was discussing the second batch of accepted entries.

Not wanting to start another discussion, but where is this embargo information? In the ACO press release itself? Did not see any embargo info anywhere...

RobertPrange · 22 Feb 2006, 09:16 (Ref:1528860)

Quote:

Originally Posted by EliseGT1

Not wanting to start another discussion, but where is this embargo information? In the ACO press release itself? Did not see any embargo info anywhere...

Check the Box in the list.pdf , the information was clearly embargoed until the 22th.

EliseGT1 · 22 Feb 2006, 09:52 (Ref:1528889)

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobertPrange

Check the Box in the list.pdf , the information was clearly embargoed until the 22th.

Hmmm, I guess we missed that one.......

**Bentley03** · 22 Feb 2006, 09:59 (Ref:1528894)

Interestingly, it would appear that it was none other than the FFSA (Federation Francaise du Sport Automobile) who were first to publish the list. Bet the ACO loved that one.......

Aerodynamic · 22 Feb 2006, 10:51 (Ref:1528942)

Surely this has got to be a ploy to get LMP1 teams to go to Sebring, although clearly some teams are simply not going to be ready.

Furthermore didn't Trevor Foster (Zytek) say that if the Herbert, Shimoda, Smith Zytek was not accepted in the first round of entries the car would not be built.............................

Why the hell are Jota not there either - a class performance last year and a good LMES showing in what could be a fantastic car. WR instead of them, come on ACO WAKE UP.

My predicted final LMP1 list is:

2 x Pesca
2 x Audi
2 x Zytek (hopefully!)
1 x Creation
1 x Lister
1 x Dome
1 x Lola 06

LC2guy · 22 Feb 2006, 10:52 (Ref:1528943)

The biggest surprises for me are Chamberlain Lola in LMP1 and Rollcentre Radical in LMP2, as both teams have bought new regulation cars, showing a long term commitment. If they don't get in with new cars, but lots of Hybrids do, then the ACO will look stoopid.

RobertPrange · 22 Feb 2006, 11:14 (Ref:1528959)

Quote:

Originally Posted by LC2guy

The biggest surprises for me are Chamberlain Lola in LMP1 and Rollcentre Radical in LMP2, as both teams have bought new regulation cars, showing a long term commitment. If they don't get in with new cars, but lots of Hybrids do, then the ACO will look stoopid.

Maybe the ACO is just sceptical about the progress of the Radical-Project.

The Badger · 22 Feb 2006, 11:20 (Ref:1528965)

Nobodies mentioned that Courage Competition are missing too !!!

Only one Saleen , RML !!!

Kruse or Ebimotors .

Truckosaurus · 22 Feb 2006, 11:25 (Ref:1528970)

I think it is a sensible decision for the ACO not to grant entries to cars that have yet to be raced or even built yet. If they'd invited the Audis, then we'd have cause for complaints, but leaving the majority of LMP1 slots open until after teams have a chance to showcase themselves at Sebring is fair enough.

BTW, can someone remind me if there are a certain number of guarenteed entries for Sebring class winners?

Dauer 962 · 22 Feb 2006, 11:27 (Ref:1528971)

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Badger

Nobodies mentioned that Courage Competition are missing too !!!

Only one Saleen , RML !!!

Kruse or Ebimotors .

I guess Courage will get his two entries as soon as first pictures of the new LMP1 appear. All new LMP cars of which only renderings / models exits, are not on the list yet, expect the Dome.

The Saleen is Acemco, RML is the Lola.

Don’t know if Ebimotors made application for Le Mans, think their focus is on FIA GT. But instead of Ebimotors, Autoorlando also isn’t on the list

russ250575 · 22 Feb 2006, 11:28 (Ref:1528972)

to many GT1/2 in my opinion I want to see more Lmp1/1h and LMP2s in fact all of them listed above who have applied

you can watch the spa 24h for gts

Dauer 962 · 22 Feb 2006, 11:30 (Ref:1528974)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Truckosaurus

BTW, can someone remind me if there are a certain number of guarenteed entries for Sebring class winners?

No, Sebring is just a showcase for the ACO, without any guarenteed entries, but for some competitors not on the list yet highly recommended.

**Bentley03** · 22 Feb 2006, 11:46 (Ref:1528979)

Quote:

Originally Posted by russ250575

to many GT1/2 in my opinion I want to see more Lmp1/1h and LMP2s in fact all of them listed above who have applied

you can watch the spa 24h for gts

Agree totally!!

Pilgrimage · 22 Feb 2006, 12:00 (Ref:1528994)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bentley03

Agree totally!!

Yep, gets my vote too - but I must admit i do like the diversity - afterall, that is what makes LM trully special.

A one class series would resemble F1!

Can't wait for an extended grid in future years - the calibre of entries and possible entries over the next decade (hopefully with more manufacturers coming back) certainly would make good grids.

BSchneiderFan · 22 Feb 2006, 12:19 (Ref:1529003)

I wouldn't get too exercised about who's in or out just yet; there's a long way to go till June. And can anyone imagine, say, ORECA being left out of the final list? More to come, fellows, more to come.

russ250575 · 22 Feb 2006, 12:21 (Ref:1529004)

bit off track here in the late80s early90s when you had group C and C2s at LM was there gt's racing at LM aswell ?

Pilgrimage · 22 Feb 2006, 12:22 (Ref:1529005)

I think (even in the late 1930's) there were always Porcshe 911's racing

**Bentley03** · 22 Feb 2006, 12:26 (Ref:1529006)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pilgrimage

Yep, gets my vote too - but I must admit i do like the diversity - afterall, that is what makes LM trully special.

When I said 'agree totally', I wasn't advocating the demise of the GT's at Le Mans. On the contrary, it is indeed (as you say) the diversity of machinery which makes Le Mans so special. But if there is to be a bias one way or the other, I'd prefer it to be in favour of the LMP's, particularly the P1's. The list makes pretty alarming reading at the moment, and there is a real risk that LMP1 will not be as well represented as I, and I'm sure many others, would like this year.

Wout · 22 Feb 2006, 12:27 (Ref:1529007)

Interesting part in the announcement:

"Daniel Poissenot, the A.C.O Sports Manager and Le Mans 24 Hours Clerk of the Course, said just how satisfied Mr. Jean-Claude Plassart, the President of l’Automobile Club de l’Ouest and the Selection Committee are concerning the quality of the entries received. “While the number of entries is very similar to last year, we see that the technical level has risen again and that there has been a comforting increase in the GT1 category,” he said. In addition, to the variety already seen in LM P1 and LM P2, the Grand Touring category has gained both in diversity and numbers with the arrival of a Lamborghini Murcielago in LM GT1 and the Ferrari 430 in LM GT2."

They forget to mention the loss of the Ferrari 575, the TVR and the Ferrari 360..

**Adam43** · 22 Feb 2006, 12:29 (Ref:1529008)

Pilgrimage ,911,

Quote:

Originally Posted by russ250575

bit off track here in the late80s early90s when you had group C and C2s at LM was there gt's racing at LM aswell ?

GTs didn't return until '93. Although, naturally, there is a big history of GT cars.

In some ways it is easier to finalise the GTs at this stage as we are not waiting for new cars. The quality is more easily assured. I agree that it would be foolish to grant entries to cars that haven't competed yet.

**Adam43** · 22 Feb 2006, 12:37 (Ref:1529016)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wout

...we see that the technical level has risen again...

They forget to mention the loss of the Ferrari 575, the TVR and the Ferrari 360..

You could argue that his comment and that fact are not completely contradictory.

LC2guy · 22 Feb 2006, 12:45 (Ref:1529028)

The problem is, Chamberlain Lola, Rollcentre Radical and New Courage's won't run until Istanbull LMS, as thats the series they are entered in, and the final list comes out before that, straight after sebring. Same as last year, the list came out and then Zytek went and won an ACO sanctioned event ( spa ), but weren't invited to the Biggest one. These cars are built to their new rules, why let in older, outdated machinery at their expense ? This is my opinion, but i understand what you say about letting in unraced cars. However, in future, maybe they should wait until after the first round of each championship ( europe, usa, even japan if its early enough ) before giving the final list. But then people would moan about securing budgets etc earlier in the year. Oh well....

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