[LM24] Pescarolo Sport future plans...?!?!

[Victor_RO]

Originally Posted by avvelenamento

can't remember peugeot.

They had Forza Motorsport decals inside the cockpit (quite prominently in the full view of the onboard cameras) in 2007 and (I think) 2008.

[TF110]

Originally Posted by Simmi

Forza have (had?) a link up with SRT on the non-Pennzoil Viper.

Forza's sponsorship is now over with Viper. No longer listed on their website nor on their cars.

[isynge]

Originally Posted by avvelenamento

If am I not wrong, peugeot was sponsored by microsoft xbox360 in 2008 and 2009. In 2010 and 2011 by playstation and gran turismo. Anyway I can't expect big sponsors will knock henri's door.

I remember back in the 1980s Frank Williams making the point that at no stage did sponsors ever knock on your door, the onus was entirely on you to knock on their door. I doubt anything has changed.

[GTRMagic]

Hows about Audi France assisting Mr Pescarolo into the latest Audi P1 challenger...

With the right commercial budget and pilots (please bring back Mr Loeb..), it would make for an interesting comparison to the works Audis... and create some conversation in France, and around the world about the Audis..

Audi winning all the time unfortunately blunts the impact of their marketing efforts around the race, as it has now become 'expected' rather than fought for.

You might imagine too, if Porsche follows its previous lineage, that customer versions of its LeMans racer should be available to preferred customers at some stage. The backbone of Group C were the 956 & 962s in mostly private hands after all...

[CTD]

The R8 was probably the only costumer friendly Audi Le Mans racer ever.
The R10 was too complex for Kolles to run properly, and I fear the new 2014 challenger will be even worse!

[Aysedasi]

It's quite amusing. I still have a text on my phone dated 9th June 2010 which reads 'Scoop! Pescarolo Audi next year?'

And it was from someone in the know.........

[avvelenamento]

forward-looking rumor, it wasn't 2011 but pescarolo had to wait other 2 years before to have an audi to run at le mans. Of course it was the safety car, but the rumors claimed "Audi" it wasn't specified the model.

[Aysedasi]

True enough!

[NaBUru38]

The Pescarolo 02 Coupé is a sports prototype car created by SORA Composites for the CN class.

[pablocomics]

I thought that the relations between Sora composites and Pescarolo was....., delicated. I'm really surprised about a Pescarolo named car constructed by Sora composites.

[isynge]

Originally Posted by pablocomics

I thought that the relations between Sora composites and Pescarolo was....., delicated. I'm really surprised about a Pescarolo named car constructed by Sora composites.

I suspect the intellectual property to the "Pescarolo 02" is owned either by Sora or the ACO, depending on how the 'school car' contract was structured.

Personally I'm not sure how excited I am to see Py's empire getting something out of this, and like you, given the acrimony surrounding Sora's last engagement with ACO rules racing I'm a little surprised that they've got both the manufacturing contract and the positive spin around this...

[vincegail]

I don't think there will be much future plans at Pescarolo's. If my french is anything to go by, the commerce department of the Sarthe region declared them bankrupt and business is closed as of now. http://www.endurance-info.com/fr/cla...escarolo-team/

[Simmi]

Yep - closed on February 7 due to 'lack of assets'.

Very sad. I wonder what Jacques Nicolet thinks about the whole thing?

[CTD]

Originally Posted by Simmi

Yep - closed on February 7 due to 'lack of assets'.

Very sad. I wonder what Jacques Nicolet thinks about the whole thing?

"At least I tried..."
I think.

[Aysedasi]

Very sad indeed. I presume there is little chance of any kind of comeback for Henri now......

[CTD]

Originally Posted by Aysedasi

Very sad indeed. I presume there is little chance of any kind of comeback for Henri now......

Oak hiring him as Sporting advisor?
There are talks about Quesnel leaving for Lotus F1, so having someone with experience of running a LMP team would not hurt, if they lose Quesnel.

[Aysedasi]

I guess anywhere that doesn't need financial acumen........

Sorry that's unfair I know, but......

[GT6]

I am not to sure that anyone will want him, he has built up a reputation for being difficult to work with and therefore it could be no one will be prepared to take that risk

[CTD]

Originally Posted by Aysedasi

I guess anywhere that doesn't need financial acumen........

Sorry that's unfair I know, but......

Well, it's actually not unfair! - Henri Pescarolo has failed his team twice financially. He's a sporting person, and thats all his position should ever be in a team.
I got a lot of respect for him, but believing that he can run a team without someone stable to run the finances is naive.

[isynge]

Originally Posted by CTD

Well, it's actually not unfair! - Henri Pescarolo has failed his team twice financially. He's a sporting person, and thats all his position should ever be in a team.
I got a lot of respect for him, but believing that he can run a team without someone stable to run the finances is naive.

I think it's a lesson to anyone, in motorsport or otherwise, that entering into a partnership and committing resources on the basis of it is fraught with danger.

Henri made one serious mistake (mishandling the Matmut relationship in 2006) and two fairly forgivable ones (the Py partnership and the Luxury engagement) and the latter two doomed him on both occasions. Evidence of financial incompetence? I'm not sure I'd go that far.

The man is a legend, what he achieved as a driver, as a team owner, and also let's not forget his role with the Elf La Filiere programme, which brought on a whole generation of French drivers, all mean we should applaud a fantastic career and let the Pescarolo name pass into history.

[Mal]

Originally Posted by isynge

I think it's a lesson to anyone, in motorsport or otherwise, that entering into a partnership and committing resources on the basis of it is fraught with danger.

Henri made one serious mistake (mishandling the Matmut relationship in 2006) and two fairly forgivable ones (the Py partnership and the Luxury engagement) and the latter two doomed him on both occasions. Evidence of financial incompetence? I'm not sure I'd go that far.

The man is a legend, what he achieved as a driver, as a team owner, and also let's not forget his role with the Elf La Filiere programme, which brought on a whole generation of French drivers, all mean we should applaud a fantastic career and let the Pescarolo name pass into history.

Wise words as always Ian...... but he does come across as a grumpy old sod

[isynge]

Grumpy old sod? Yeah, I'll grant you that Mal...

[GT6]

But as a team leader he has to drive a team to perform and motivate his people and a grumpy old msn will not get the best from people and it will not attract financial backing and without that no team can survive

[claude2cv]

OK, so he is grumpy and his team has failed due to finance, but how many top drivers have gone on to be successful team principals?

[FordCosworthPanoz]

Creation Autosport
Charouz Racing Team
Epsilon Euskadi
Dome Racing
Signature Plus
Kolles Audi
De Ferran Motorsport
Rollcentre Racing
Autocon Motorsport
Intersport Racing
Highcroft Racing
Drayson Racing
Team LNT
Beechdean
Aston Martin Racing
Matmut Oreca
Peugeot Sport Total
Quifel ASM
Strakka Racing
JRM Motorsport
Dyson Racing
Muscle Milk Pickett Racing
Pescarolo Sport

Any bets on who gets added to this list next? My bet is the new Lotus team.

Sad day but an expected one.