'09 LMS Round 2, Spa May 8th-10th - Page 11

Lola T70 · 10 May 2009, 20:36 (Ref:2459531)

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Originally Posted by JAG

If you want the fuel milage you need to invest in the technology.

Aston Martin are introducing a direct injection V12 at Le Mans that will increase power and be more fuel efficient.

AER and Judd need to invest in similar technology, if not for their current engines, then for their 2011 2l Turbo and 3.4l V8.

If not, someone like Cosworth or Zytek could corner the market with an off the shelf direct injection engine and possible KERS system, afterall the chassis manufactuers are doing all they can with much improved cars.

wow, hope that works for Aston but is it not wise to test it at Spa in race conditions first?

HORNDAWG · 10 May 2009, 21:00 (Ref:2459550)

Hold the presses folks. There has been several exclusions.

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After a report from the Scrutineers, the Panel of the Stewards pronounced the exclusion of the competitors n° 26, 29, 32 and 77 due to a technical non compliance.

L.P.

Dead-Eye · 10 May 2009, 21:01 (Ref:2459552)

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Originally Posted by Lola T70

wow, hope that works for Aston but is it not wise to test it at Spa in race conditions first?

It might not have been ready - and engine changes aren't a good idea if you actually want to win the LMS and aren't just using it as a test for LM.

(OK, the 007 had one anyway, but if the thing blows up you don't really want to put something new and untried in overnight, even if they could have done it)

Gingers4Justice · 10 May 2009, 21:09 (Ref:2459564)

26, 29, 32 and 77
Thats the Radical, the first of the Racing Box Lolas, the Barazi Epsilon Zytek and - crikey! - the Felkjghailhgaluryr Porsche!

Ooohh this is interesting

AndrewF31 · 10 May 2009, 21:22 (Ref:2459574)

3rd and 4th in P2, hmm. And of course the winning Porsche in GT2.

I guess we now have a 1-2-3 for Ferrari. Too bad the Spyker didn't get passed 1 or 2 Ferraris in the end.

Guess we'll have to wait for why.

Acid09 · 10 May 2009, 21:48 (Ref:2459588)

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Originally Posted by The Badger

Yeah , for Pescarolo's Pug !!!

Any Lion will do

The Badger · 10 May 2009, 23:43 (Ref:2459651)

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Originally Posted by Gingers4Justice

Thats German luck - that sort of thing always happens to a Pug and tha Audi wins.

Before then, when the R8s were racing at Le Mans, the yellow under Audi Sport North America banner was always the faster car - but always lost for some reason or another the Joest red Audi. In 1999, the BMW got a very lucky break to win that year.

Thats German luck for you.

Depends on how you look at it . The Toyota was taken out by a German .... Bsher !!! ..... CONSPIRICY

ger80 · 11 May 2009, 07:15 (Ref:2459779)

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Originally Posted by AndrewF31

3rd and 4th in P2, hmm. And of course the winning Porsche in GT2.

I guess we now have a 1-2-3 for Ferrari. Too bad the Spyker didn't get passed 1 or 2 Ferraris in the end.

Guess we'll have to wait for why.

Missing bodywork - due to a blown tire ...

Spyderman · 11 May 2009, 07:39 (Ref:2459798)

Ridiculous!

nobster · 11 May 2009, 09:00 (Ref:2459882)

Any news on the Bruno Senna crash at the end of the race?
How did it happen ? I saw Lapierre in the other car have a very strange moment at almost the same spot in qualifying, maybe there was something wrong with the car.
He looked like he outbraked himself or something had jammed in the car, he was stranded at the entry of the corner and not until after the red flag was out he could restart the car.

aiwa · 11 May 2009, 10:46 (Ref:2459971)

The exclusion of the 77 Felbermayr car for a missing outer wheel arch just highlights the ACOs inconsistencies. Last year the Clerk of the course would send you a note to say repair it or get the black flag - similar modus operandi in LMP 1 and 2 with the cooling vents going missing or breaking. This year nothing just a post race exclusion - no doubt Porsche will send in the Lawyers.

Wonder if the LMP 2 cars were excluded for missing or broken cooling vents around the tyres in the bodywork!

kingkai · 11 May 2009, 11:11 (Ref:2459989)

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Originally Posted by aiwa

The exclusion of the 77 Felbermayr car for a missing outer wheel arch just highlights the ACOs inconsistencies. Last year the Clerk of the course would send you a note to say repair it or get the black flag - similar modus operandi in LMP 1 and 2 with the cooling vents going missing or breaking. This year nothing just a post race exclusion - no doubt Porsche will send in the Lawyers.

Wonder if the LMP 2 cars were excluded for missing or broken cooling vents around the tyres in the bodywork!

Just a undeserved disqualification. They ran a great race!

I was really shocked when I heard the news this morning. Nothing appeared wrong when they checked the engine en fuel in scrutenering before I left the circuit. They've should have saved the trouble of checked the whole car before excluding them afterwards because of the missing outer wheelarch. First they where checked on all the things before turning to the bodywork.

Dave1Zippy · 11 May 2009, 12:16 (Ref:2460051)

Sorry if I am out of sync with other comments on this subject, but the Eurosport coverage was diabolical. I went in the kitchen to get a quick snack to settle down to watch some fab sportscars and when I came back bike racing was on!!! Thought the channel had switched over to E2, but no.... The later broadcast was little better. I signed up to Sky because I assumed these races would be live - didn't Motors used to show the whole LMS races? Is this a blip - will Euro show more of the races?

Even worse I have to shell out extra to watch FIA GTs on bloody Setanta. Oh and where is ALMS (ok a little below par this year, but...). Sorry, rant over.

The Badger · 11 May 2009, 16:37 (Ref:2460241)

Were Felbermayr not shown a black flag then ?

If not .... the penalty is a load of ...... !!!

GTfour · 11 May 2009, 16:37 (Ref:2460243)

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Originally Posted by Dave1Zippy

Sorry if I am out of sync with other comments on this subject, but the Eurosport coverage was diabolical. I went in the kitchen to get a quick snack to settle down to watch some fab sportscars and when I came back bike racing was on!!! Thought the channel had switched over to E2, but no.... The later broadcast was little better. I signed up to Sky because I assumed these races would be live - didn't Motors used to show the whole LMS races? Is this a blip - will Euro show more of the races?

Even worse I have to shell out extra to watch FIA GTs on bloody Setanta. Oh and where is ALMS (ok a little below par this year, but...). Sorry, rant over.

I completely agree with your feelings. MotorsTV and Eurosport are notorious for caring F* all for their viewers and everything for their paying sponsors.
This makes them very vulnurable for financial "arguments" from Burnie's FIA and this is probably the reason why TV coverage of the major sportscarclasses is such a mess at the moment.(You know,F1 in financial troubles,sportscars having too much popularity and succes for Max and Burnie...)

Happened before though. This is the same way the FIA killed the ITCC back in the late nineties. Just by making the rights to air it astronomical.

NightStalk3r · 11 May 2009, 16:43 (Ref:2460250)

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Originally Posted by The Badger

Were Felbermayr not shown a black flag then ?

If not .... the penalty is a load of bolix !!!

Yes the ACO are in a s*** state at the moment, giving penalties to teams having to change engines because of the **** poor fuel the ACO provides, and then randomly handing out DQ's for missing bodywork, i bet you next race a Ferrari will finish the race with half a door missing and no rear bumper and not get DQ'ed, they have no consistency and are making a mockery of themselves FIA style.

JAG · 11 May 2009, 16:57 (Ref:2460260)

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Originally Posted by Dave1Zippy

Sorry if I am out of sync with other comments on this subject, but the Eurosport coverage was diabolical. I went in the kitchen to get a quick snack to settle down to watch some fab sportscars and when I came back bike racing was on!!! Thought the channel had switched over to E2, but no.... The later broadcast was little better. I signed up to Sky because I assumed these races would be live - didn't Motors used to show the whole LMS races? Is this a blip - will Euro show more of the races?

Even worse I have to shell out extra to watch FIA GTs on bloody Setanta. Oh and where is ALMS (ok a little below par this year, but...). Sorry, rant over.

Don't bother with the Sky subscription, there's a £3.99 per month Eurosport online subscription which gives you live streaming of the entire LMS races. For Le Mans I expect the practice and qualifying sessions to also be covered, you can compliment it with RLM.

There's also been a free stream for FIA GT recently.

HORNDAWG · 11 May 2009, 17:04 (Ref:2460266)

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Originally Posted by ger80

Missing bodywork - due to a blown tire ...

And where is this stated? I see it nowhere, LMS,ACO, EI, Proton site, absolutely nowhere.

L.P.

ger80 · 11 May 2009, 18:46 (Ref:2460340)

here: (written by a project-lemans.de writter)

http://translate.google.com/translat...istory_state0=

and a pic here:
http://file1.npage.de/001805/41/bilder/img_4684.jpg

Tom908V12 · 11 May 2009, 18:53 (Ref:2460347)

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Originally Posted by PascaLM

Excellent work of Tinseau and Boullion. But one chassis to be rebuilt for Pescarolo and ORECA, four weeks before the pesage.

No hurry for Pescarolo !! At Le Mans the #17 car will be the 908...

Tom908V12 · 11 May 2009, 19:00 (Ref:2460352)

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAG

If you want the fuel milage you need to invest in the technology.

Aston Martin are introducing a direct injection V12 at Le Mans that will increase power and be more fuel efficient.

Interesting

ger80 · 11 May 2009, 19:20 (Ref:2460365)

Full story - also by Guido. Thats a joke

http://translate.google.com/translat...istory_state0=

Gingers4Justice · 11 May 2009, 19:28 (Ref:2460374)

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Originally Posted by ger80

Full story - also by Guido. Thats a joke

http://translate.google.com/translat...istory_state0=

Google translation make me laugh! I reckon I could probably make more senese out of that with my school-learnt german!

ger80 · 11 May 2009, 19:29 (Ref:2460376)

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Originally Posted by Gingers4Justice

Google translation make me laugh! I reckon I could probably make more senese out of that with my school-learnt german!

well, didnt want to post the german one

Gingers4Justice · 11 May 2009, 19:33 (Ref:2460381)

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Originally Posted by ger80

well, didnt want to post the german one

I know lol no having a go.

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