The ACO List & Those Not Chosen - Page 2

Nordic · 3 Apr 2004, 09:17 (Ref:928198)

http://www.mcestoril.pt/le-mans/index_gb.html

If you look at the entry lists from the 70's on this site there is a list of cars not accepted into the 24 hrs then. If accurate it makes interesting reading, Franz Konrad didn'nt have much luck then either! his 935 was turned down in 78.

It seems that there are more theads on who DID NOT get in the race than those who did. I think its time to move on, as unless the ACO release a list, it is pure speculation on how even tried to enter.

Tim Northcutt · 5 Apr 2004, 13:36 (Ref:931044)

I posted this thread just to see what many of us thought about who entered, and not necessarily to take a shot at the ACO....

I thought it was a rather fun excercise.....

But we'll be talking plenty about who IS on the list as well....I still think it will be a very strong field and the race will be an ecxiting one...

Fab · 5 Apr 2004, 13:50 (Ref:931060)

Why is the XL Racing Ferrari before the RFH Dome on the substitutes' list ? I really can't explain...

The Badger · 5 Apr 2004, 14:52 (Ref:931138)

More to the point is ..... why did Seikel Motorsport get an entry and a reserve too . It was the same last year and maybe the year before ?! :confused:

Liz · 5 Apr 2004, 17:07 (Ref:931258)

They must Know Someone.

I've sent e-mails to a couple of the people on the list y'all put up that were not invited and will let you know if I get any feedback.

Fab · 6 Apr 2004, 05:45 (Ref:931833)

Quote:

Originally posted by Liz
They must Know Someone.

try to know who !

Quote:

Originally posted by Liz
I've sent e-mails to a couple of the people on the list y'all put up that were not invited and will let you know if I get any feedback.

Thanks for that Liz ! And

for the great job you did in the Sebring's coverage !

Liz · 6 Apr 2004, 13:05 (Ref:932243)

You're welcome -- our traffic was up 30% last month which means we are doing something right.

I've received a response from Michael Lewis and posted it in a separate thread. I did tell him I was asking for something I could quote, so I trust I am not revealing any secrets. He's a very thoughtful and intelligent man and I think the ACO ought to take to heart what he says.

Tim Northcutt · 6 Apr 2004, 18:06 (Ref:932568)

I read the thread "Michael Lewis Speaks," Liz.....

Thanks for helping us by asking for the thoughts of the teams who did not get invites....

Mr. Lewis was quite candid, but I also felt he was diplomatic....a difficult thing to be when faced with such a disappointment, and i share his sentiments....

Thanks again, and keep us posted on what you hear from others....

SFonseca · 6 Apr 2004, 18:36 (Ref:932599)

Quote:

Originally posted by Fab
Why is the XL Racing Ferrari before the RFH Dome on the substitutes' list ? I really can't explain...

Olivier Pla as Ferrari XL driver makes the french more powerful than RFH

!!

**Aysedasi** · 6 Apr 2004, 18:44 (Ref:932613)

And who the heck is he when he's at home?

Patrick B · 6 Apr 2004, 18:45 (Ref:932616)

Why should two identical Domes get in before the lone 550 GT? Makes sense to me to have the XL car before the second RFH...

**Aysedasi** · 6 Apr 2004, 18:53 (Ref:932629)

Not to me it doesn't. Lammers has justified a two-car prototype entry for a number of years. XL don't quite have the same pedigree....... They were fortunate to get an entry last year and achieved zilch in the race, rising to the dizzy heights of 29th (out of the 32 cars still running) when the car retired.

Graham Goodwin · 6 Apr 2004, 19:33 (Ref:932686)

I entirely agree Ayse

Lammers and his team have supported LM for years and have always fielded immaculate cars which have taken the fight to the Audis.

Fingers crossed we get the chance to see both cars out again this year.

As for the 550 - I could probably name you 20 cars more deserving of a place in the race than that one (and that's just in the GT class!

The Badger · 6 Apr 2004, 19:40 (Ref:932697)

Quote:

Originally posted by Patrick B
Why should two identical Domes get in before the lone 550 GT? Makes sense to me to have the XL car before the second RFH...

We already have 5 Ferrari's !!! The Dome could maybe take the fight to Audi .

Try Hard · 6 Apr 2004, 20:18 (Ref:932731)

I agree entirely with Ayse and Graham, I know I shouldn't but hope someone else drop's out so we can get the dome in.

Just out of interest (and meaning no offence to our french chums) is XL a french team? If it is, ACO bias again?

What about the konrad saleen being added to the reserve list? It's a long shot but if we loose a couple of GTS ferraris.....

Patrick B · 6 Apr 2004, 23:18 (Ref:932898)

Dosn't XL run the full FIA GT series? I thought they even had a podium finish in Ngt last year...

19dodge · 7 Apr 2004, 00:32 (Ref:932929)

thats AutoPalace. not XL

Fab · 7 Apr 2004, 05:20 (Ref:933013)

XL Racing is a good french team, entering the FFSA championship. Notice that I didn't say that they deserve an entry at LM...

Quote:

Originaly post by Try Hard
Just out of interest (and meaning no offence to our french chums) is XL a french team? If it is, ACO bias again?

I'm starting to think that you may be right. Someone in the forum mentionned that the second RFH was out to let a best result the Pescarolo cars ; possible too... I'm really sad of the fact that it could be, and feel ashamed for ACO...

All this could be due to the lack of interrest by french's public, and the ACO's try to bring it back - silly move, IMHO.

Gilles · 7 Apr 2004, 08:35 (Ref:933134)

You all may be right and it has some drawbacks...

... such as a division/dispersion of national financial capacities which could be more useful concentrated on only 3 to 5 projects.

Nordic · 7 Apr 2004, 08:46 (Ref:933141)

Quote:

Someone in the forum mentionned that the second RFH was out to let a best result the Pescarolo cars ; possible too...

If that was the case, a couple of Audis could be lost too

Maybe by having so many Courages in, will mean that that the car/engine will get better as the development cost can be split,this may have long term benefits.

I thought the XL 550 was sold? this must be a new car and hopefully better, still would have prefered the 2nd tvr before it.

Gilles · 7 Apr 2004, 09:42 (Ref:933180)

Pescarolo's cars are not considered as Courage but as Pescarolo.

Henri made so many modifications that Yves Courage refuses to give his name to these cars and Peescarolo is niow the official manufacturer of his 2 cars which could already not be considered as C65 anymore

Fab · 7 Apr 2004, 11:54 (Ref:933315)

Quote:

Originally posted by Gilles
...be considered as C65 anymore

I assume you meant C60 - the C65 beeing the "small one"...

Gilles · 7 Apr 2004, 12:19 (Ref:933360)

Yes Fab, you're right...

... as usual !

Fab · 7 Apr 2004, 12:23 (Ref:933370)

Quote:

Originally posted by Gilles
Yes Fab, you're right...

... as usual !

Do have I to mention the schtupid mishtakes I did last days ?

Liz · 9 Apr 2004, 13:04 (Ref:935187)

I have heard back from Chris Dyson. He confirmed that they were given an offer and declined it, but he would prefer not to discuss their reasons. He will probably, however, be driving with Jan Lammers and expects to have an announcement soon.

Naturally we respect his right to keep his own counsel and I wrote back and told him so.

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