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Old 9 Aug 2006, 15:29 (Ref:1678487)   #26
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I can't see (or believe) that anyone has mentioned the Aston Martin AMR1.
Now that was an amazing sounding race car!
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Old 9 Aug 2006, 16:07 (Ref:1678513)   #27
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Wasn't there some restrictor advantages in running a pushrod engine as well?

(or am I getting confused with the CART engine Ilmor built for Mercedes just for the Indy500 one year?)
Yes I think that was CART. More capacity/boost with pushrods.
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Old 9 Aug 2006, 16:42 (Ref:1678532)   #28
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Wasn't there some restrictor advantages in running a pushrod engine as well?
There's nothing in the Le Mans/FIA GT rules about pushrods, but 2 valve per cylinder engines, i.e. a lot of cross-plane crank V8s such as the Roush, Yates and Elan V8s used in the various Panoz GT1 and LMP cars were/are allowed a slight restrictor diameter increase over 4 valve engines of the same capacity. The Jag V12 in the Lister Storm GT1 car is also 2vpc, so qualifies for a restrictor increase.

I believe that the Mercedes engine was a 4 valve engine.

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Old 9 Aug 2006, 20:11 (Ref:1678690)   #29
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1990 Mercedes C11, V8 rumble with a twist.

Panoz GTR-1

1997 F1 GTR

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Old 10 Aug 2006, 21:24 (Ref:1679506)   #30
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In 1998 and 1999 Mercedes ran at Le Mans with a cross-plane crank 6-litre V8, so it was a real US-style soundtrack. In 1998 FIA-GT they ran the CLK-LM with a 5-litre flat-plane crank V8, a completely different noise altogether (and not as pleasing to the ear).
'reason it sounded so different was 'cause it was a 6L V12.
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Old 10 Aug 2006, 22:04 (Ref:1679544)   #31
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1. Matra (flat)
2. Mazda (flat chat) ouch
3. Jaguar V12 (Group C and Lister Storm GT2 ) ooh aah
4. Spice DFR (more please)
5. Lister LMP (just on the power)




9999999999999999999998. G-Wiz (electri car)
9999999999999999999999. Audi R10
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Old 10 Aug 2006, 22:08 (Ref:1679548)   #32
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9999999999999999999998. G-Wiz (electri car)
9999999999999999999999. Audi R10
Crikey, that's generous, I expected the R10 to have been much lower!
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Old 11 Aug 2006, 10:41 (Ref:1679842)   #33
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'reason it sounded so different was 'cause it was a 6L V12.
Not in 1998, it wasn't. They ran the V12 CLK-GTRs at Silverstone, and then switched to the V8 engined CLK-LM from Hockenheim onwards. The Persson team continued to run the old CLK-GTR V12s.

The reason the V8 used in FIA-GT sounded different to the Le Mans engine was because it was a flat-plane crank V8, which is very much like having two four cylinder engines driven off a common crank. The Le Mans engine was cross-plane crank, which uses a completely different firing order and results in the characteristic US-style V8 'burble'.
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Old 11 Aug 2006, 16:58 (Ref:1680118)   #34
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1999 Mercedes CLK-LM and the 1998 Panoz GTR. Saw them both at LM, beautiful sound of a V-8.

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Old 11 Aug 2006, 17:11 (Ref:1680125)   #35
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So many cars, so many top sounds.

Nothing really to add other than i'm totally with newbob and we've shared the same views about the Lambo in threads before.

That engine note is unrivalled by anything i've ever heard (god I wish some miracle could happen to make it go as well as it sounds.)

McLaren GT-R also superb
Jag XJR 5-12 V12's legendary

Never heard the Matra apart from one time in an historic race at Silverstone in about 1993/4 and it wasn't exactly stretched but as i've heard the same engine in the back of a Ligier F1 (albeit on film) then it's definitely a contender!!

And agreed re the Sauber-Merc's, very potent noise that ooozed superiority!
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Not in 1998, it wasn't. They ran the V12 CLK-GTRs at Silverstone, and then switched to the V8 engined CLK-LM from Hockenheim onwards. The Persson team continued to run the old CLK-GTR V12s.

The reason the V8 used in FIA-GT sounded different to the Le Mans engine was because it was a flat-plane crank V8, which is very much like having two four cylinder engines driven off a common crank. The Le Mans engine was cross-plane crank, which uses a completely different firing order and results in the characteristic US-style V8 'burble'.
Interesting, I was dissapointed with the V8 CLK-LM's when I saw them at Donington, they sounded like a Mondeo V6 Touring car!

Similarly, the V12 CLK-GTR's were nothing like the old Jag V12's, just a quiet woosh.

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Old 13 Aug 2006, 17:19 (Ref:1681347)   #37
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I think the time there were seven McLarens (at least it seemd like seven!) at Silverstone has permanently damaged my hearing, that and the original Panoz. In the course of a 4 hour race, inevetably (?? I'm not a mathematician) they all came around together at least once
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Aston Martin AMR1 a true ground shaker........
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Biggest ground shaker (outside of a Top Fuel Dragster) for me was the Porsche 917/30. Panzer tank transmission mated to 1000+ bhp.

I cannot comprehend what it was like to drive.
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Old 14 Aug 2006, 01:27 (Ref:1681695)   #40
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the porsche 911 GT3 RSR's sounded nice as well although i could hear those cars for the next 2 weeks everywere i went even when i went to bed at night boy they sounded nice but a bit common lol.

i guess i did fail to mention the lamborghini murcielago RGT it sounds like no other lemans car ever seen or raced it does sound very very nice i wish i could see it racing especially the B racing lambo

and a special mention to the works zytek and jota zytek the backfiring from that car was something awesome it was like a helicopter gunship attack on a fireworks factory evrytime that car would brake and those flames at night the thing spat huge blue and white flames out like a machine gun at night
while the AER turbo cars flames looked like yellow candy floss all nice and fluffy somehow lol
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It's an unusual one, and maybe it's 'cause it was the first really different sound I heard at my first trek to the 24 Hours of Daytona, 1975. The visual (boxy dang vehicles) prolly didn't hurt, either. 'Noticed during the night whilst laying in our tent (down by the west hairpin) that when the drivers were on it, we could tell where they were on the circuit...unlike any other make.
Later they were in M1s and an occasional prototype (got it yet?)


But the BMW straight sixes seemed to sound the sweetest in the CSLs.

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After a good hour googling i've found a MAZDA 787B video. Commentary is in Japanesse but the sound is'nt!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Go3Fg...ch=Mazda%20RX7

...and I thought the Japanese were inscrutable, who would have thought they would woop and cheer when its revved
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While seaching I came across the fact that the sound of the Porsche 917 was used for Robin's motorbike in the film Batman & Robin.
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550, tht hurts
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dont hear it til its gon, n then, boy what a noise
hell i nearly died!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 24 Aug 2006, 08:03 (Ref:1690150)   #45
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Short, but sweet (the audio that is). If twice ain't enuff, ya can always hit the refresh button (like I do often). The article is a good read, too.
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I bet lots of people are voting for their favourite marques.

I was a huge Jag fan in the Group C days, but, although the V12s sounded good, they don't stick in the mind the way the Mazda rotary does!

The Marcos LM600s were awesome, too, but the car I remember most was the earlier LM500 model which I saw race at Oulton Park in 1994 (I think) - As the cars drove around the track on their out lap, they set off car alarms - You could see them coming by watching the flashing hazard lights on cars parked near the track!

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Duuhhh... I forgot to stick the link in the post. The audio loads with the homepage to the article. Be patient.

http://www.a2zracer.com/
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ive seen the mazda video, loved it
i still love ferrari 550 and 917 though
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