WEC Race Sao Paulo 6 Hours 2012 - Page 5

NightStalk3r · 14 Sep 2012, 17:52 (Ref:3136004)

Wurz did 2 flying laps, both were good enough for pole!

Acid09 · 14 Sep 2012, 17:53 (Ref:3136006)

Nice! By quite a margin as well, if they`re that much faster in the race they might even gain enough for 1-2 additional stops.

CTD · 14 Sep 2012, 17:54 (Ref:3136007)

Looks like a good race tomorrow! - Hope i will be home from Marshaling before it starts

MJones94 · 14 Sep 2012, 17:54 (Ref:3136008)

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Originally Posted by NightStalk3r

Wurz did 2 flying laps, both were good enough for pole!

His pace was really remarkable, I wonder how aggressive Toyota will be on their fuel strategy. I guess they hope to have enough of a speed margin over the Audis to allow for more pit-stops.

gwyllion · 14 Sep 2012, 17:56 (Ref:3136009)

Strange that Audi could not get under 1:23 like in practice 3. Toyota must have nailed their setup. Perhaps Audi's strategy of going out early backfired a bit.

The Badger · 14 Sep 2012, 18:02 (Ref:3136011)

The Ninja's on pole ................ WOOHOO

That has had made my day ................. and Aston too , Good egg !!!

Livininthinair · 14 Sep 2012, 18:02 (Ref:3136012)

You could really see the Toyota smoking when downshifting, coasting into a corner. Did not look like low ride height/rubbing to me but not sure, seemed more like smoke from exhaust (running very rich?)

Mal · 14 Sep 2012, 18:05 (Ref:3136013)

Did I hear Wurz interview right? When asked where they found the time from he answered - they were sandbagging!?

gwyllion · 14 Sep 2012, 18:05 (Ref:3136014)

According to the sector times Wurz gained 0.6 sec in sector 2! The Toyota hybrid system is really showing its advantage in the slow corners.

Coach Ep · 14 Sep 2012, 18:06 (Ref:3136015)

Looked like tire smoke to me - unfortunately the live feed doesn´t provide a smell sensor or we would have known!

gwyllion · 14 Sep 2012, 18:07 (Ref:3136016)

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Originally Posted by Mal

Did I hear Wurz interview right? When asked where they found the time from he answered - they were sandbagging!?

That was a joke

He said that they made a big setup change between the morning session and that this really paid off.

Coach Ep · 14 Sep 2012, 18:08 (Ref:3136017)

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Originally Posted by Mal

Did I hear Wurz interview right? When asked where they found the time from he answered - they were sandbagging!?

I believe he joked the Audis were sandbagging.

Time gained came from a rather drastic set up change that worked perfectly!

gwyllion · 14 Sep 2012, 18:08 (Ref:3136018)

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Originally Posted by Livininthinair

You could really see the Toyota smoking when downshifting, coasting into a corner. Did not look like low ride height/rubbing to me but not sure, seemed more like smoke from exhaust (running very rich?)

It looked to me that the rear was locking up. Perhaps they were running a very aggressive hybrid system in order to recover as much kinetic energy as possible.

Livininthinair · 14 Sep 2012, 18:13 (Ref:3136023)

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Originally Posted by gwyllion

It looked to me that the rear was locking up. Perhaps they were running a very aggressive hybrid system in order to recover as much kinetic energy as possible.

That did not occur to me... I didn't think the hybrid system could account for enough resistance to lock the rear up, mabey just their qualifying set up, could really be building up alot of heat. I'll have to watch the rear wheels closer, didn't even think of that.

gwyllion · 14 Sep 2012, 18:22 (Ref:3136025)

That is just a theory. I could not see clearly whether the rear wheels actually locked up.

TF110 · 14 Sep 2012, 18:59 (Ref:3136035)

Regardless, if they have this speed come tomorrow and stay reliable, they will be in good shape for the win. Glad to see Toyota on pole as well as Aston Martin in GTE pole. Just the teams I root for.

Subaru_WRX_STi · 14 Sep 2012, 19:20 (Ref:3136043)

I feel like the old guys aren't very happy to have Di Grassi with them!

gwyllion · 14 Sep 2012, 20:23 (Ref:3136066)

Why? He did a very good job in qualifying by beating Lotterer.

McNish seems happy with his new team mate. Of course that is all PR talk.

Quote:

Allan continued: "Lucas [di Grassi] had a fantastic qualifying session and did an extremely good job. He's a local hero and has fitted into the team extremely well with Tom and I. We knew we didn't have the outright pace in qualifying but the race is what we've been focusing all our efforts towards and have achieved a good race set-up".

source: http://endurance-info.com/version2/n...cus-13233.html

gwyllion · 14 Sep 2012, 23:04 (Ref:3136113)

A quick calculation to determine how Toyota can win the race tomorrow.

During yesterday's long run (see here) Toyota did 27 laps in 40 minutes. That means that the race distance will be around 240 laps under normal conditions. This tweet from Wurz confirms that this estimate is accurate.

If Audi can do 52 min stint, they will need to do 6 fuel stops. If Toyota can only manage 40 min stints, they will need to do 8 fuel stops.

In Silverstone Toyota lost around 5-6 sec every fuel stop and a bit more every driver change. So Toyota will loose at least 30 sec compared to Audi because of their slower pit stops.

In Le Mans and Silverstone a fuel stop takes around 55 sec. So the two additional stops that Toyota has to make, will cost them another 110 sec.

So in total Toyota will loose around 140 sec in the pits. If we assume a race distance is 240 laps, Toyota has to gain 0.583 sec per lap on Audi.

You can see why Wurz says that they will have to drive flat out in order to win the race.

TF110 · 15 Sep 2012, 07:02 (Ref:3136190)

That's the conclusion I came to as well. They'll have to be about half a second a lap faster per lap over the course of the race, or get some blessings from the safety car (hope they don't split them).

Simmi · 15 Sep 2012, 08:37 (Ref:3136215)

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Originally Posted by TF110

That's the conclusion I came to as well. They'll have to be about half a second a lap faster per lap over the course of the race, or get some blessings from the safety car (hope they don't split them).

Can certainly see the safety car coming into play again. It seems like too much of an ask for Toyota to win with this strategy. But it is certainly a fan-friendly one.

chernaudi · 15 Sep 2012, 11:10 (Ref:3136250)

And aside from P1 it seems that Toyota aren't struggling for straightline speed like at Silverstone--from session two onwards Toyota is competitive with Audi in top speed. It seems that Toyota may've pared downforce off their car because they knew that was a failing at Silverstone and to maximize passing opportunities down the straights.

NelisB · 15 Sep 2012, 11:45 (Ref:3136253)

Toyota fastest in the morning warm up. If times keep like this it could be a very close one!

Simmi · 15 Sep 2012, 11:59 (Ref:3136258)

So forum calculations reckon the Toyota needs 0.5sec per lap. Trussers apparently thinks they will need 0.7.

Still think there will be an element of incident in this one with the narrower circuit and twisting infield. Let's see I can't wait!

vincegail · 15 Sep 2012, 12:03 (Ref:3136260)

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Originally Posted by Simmi

So forum calculations reckon the Toyota needs 0.5sec per lap. Trussers apparently thinks they will need 0.7.

Can't see them getting a 0.5 second advantage lap after lap in traffic. On occasion yes, but not over the full 6 hours. Hope to stand corrected!

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