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Old 16 Jun 2019, 21:56 (Ref:3912298)   #2131
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What a major disappointment yet again by Rebellion. All the ingredients are there, but it just doesn't work. IMSA, LMP2, LMP1 etc...
I posted the following in the race thread but will post it again here, Rebellion has been the dominant privateer team in the past decade:


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6 Laps 3rd place SMP (4th and 5th Rebellion)

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12 Laps 3rd place Rebellion

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No privateer finishers

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59 laps 18th place Rebellion

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Old 17 Jun 2019, 00:38 (Ref:3912334)   #2132
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Bit of a below par performance by Rebellion, but at least they got both cars to the end
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Old 17 Jun 2019, 00:45 (Ref:3912336)   #2133
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I just find it odd that Rebellion have had what felt like more reliability problems than most of the LMP2 field combined at LM this year. Granted, the issues weren't terminal or even major, but it was enough to keep them from competing head to head with SMP after the halfway mark. Who, after all, got the podium mostly by staying out trouble.

Also ironic given that most of the LMP2 field is built by Oreca, who build Rebellion's cars.
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Old 17 Jun 2019, 14:04 (Ref:3912440)   #2134
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The car looked hugely agile but also very edgy and nervous over the weekend. Quite a few brown trouser moments for the drivers!
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Old 17 Jun 2019, 22:45 (Ref:3912567)   #2135
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After losing the privateers battle at Le Mans, seems that Rebellion Racing is requiring some $$ to fill the second entry in 2019/2020.
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The car looked hugely agile but also very edgy and nervous over the weekend. Quite a few brown trouser moments for the drivers!

Could that mean that they trimmed off a ton of downforce to try and answer to SMP?
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After losing the privateers battle at Le Mans, seems that Rebellion Racing is requiring some $$ to fill the second entry in 2019/2020.
They've always had drivers bring funding.
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SC365 (take it for what it's worth) reports that 2 Rebellions on the grid full time next year is a "50-50" prospect for the 2nd car. This is due to concerns over how to budget for next season given the phase in of the Hypercar LMP1 regs for 2020.

Same article also says that Rebellion preferred DPI-influenced rules over the hypercar influenced regs adopted.
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Old 18 Jun 2019, 18:23 (Ref:3912722)   #2139
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They probably preferred dpi because they could do what they did now, take an lmp2 chassis and 'upgrade' it. Of course that would save them money over having to make a brand new car.
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They probably preferred dpi because they could do what they did now, take an lmp2 chassis and 'upgrade' it. Of course that would save them money over having to make a brand new car.
Exactly that, they don't have an unlimited budget, there's lots of money but it should be spent wisely
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They've always had drivers bring funding.
Now they are down to one car only.
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Old 21 Jun 2019, 13:45 (Ref:3913308)   #2142
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Now they are down to one car only.
Not exactly true, they are committed to one car and looking for drivers and funding to run the second.
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It also has to be remembered that Rebellion are down 2, maybe 3 drivers at least on a full time basis. Laurent is now a Toyota factory driver and might get race rides depending on if Buemi has to do FE races next season that clash with WEC races. Jani is leaving Rebellion after being called up for Porsche's FE team, and Lotterer is considering focusing on FE over WEC, meaning he might not be at Rebellion at least full time next year.
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Agree, jani and lotterer likely will drop WEC to focus only on FE programs.

Likely rebellion will first ensure to settle a paying drivers car, then they'll try to recruit 3 pro drivers for the other car.
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It also has to be remembered that Rebellion are down 2, maybe 3 drivers at least on a full time basis. Laurent is now a Toyota factory driver and might get race rides depending on if Buemi has to do FE races next season that clash with WEC races. Jani is leaving Rebellion after being called up for Porsche's FE team, and Lotterer is considering focusing on FE over WEC, meaning he might not be at Rebellion at least full time next year.
Laurent is definitely out. He will be driving for Signatech Alpine in the WEC unless he is required by Toyota. His contract probably prohibits him from driving against Toyota in the WEC. Ant Davidson said during LM week that his Toyota contract means no LMP1 for him. Not sure when his contract ends.
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