[LM24] Le Mans 2021 21/22 August - Who Is Going?

[gert]

Originally Posted by john ruston

Spa tickets available this week

Originally Posted by Peter Mallett

Also my Spa entry is in.

Don't count on anything going ahead with spectators allowed before september.

[Peter Mallett]

Agreed, the 6hrs is October.

[Simmi]

Doesn't sound like the French have their s**t together when it comes to the vaccine currently. EU delays making life difficult. Would be interested to hear from our French friends on the forum on how it's going. Against all the odds it seems to be going okay this side of the Channel.

Again more evidence to support pushing the race back.

[GT6]

i think the uk did more vaccinations yesterday than France has so far, but it is snowing here today so that usually stops everything in this part of the world.

[Aysedasi]

Do you have snow Simon? The Forest is very cold, but no snow yet....

[GT6]

Well we were due several inches of snow last night but only had rain and plenty of it, this morning we had very heavy snow but it took a while to settle and then only on grass at first and very slushy, got colder as day went on and now well below zero, and lightly snowing but blowing about. Nothing much to do so watching the snow closely.

[batmobile]

Originally Posted by Simmi

Doesn't sound like the French have their s**t together when it comes to the vaccine currently. EU delays making life difficult. Would be interested to hear from our French friends on the forum on how it's going. Against all the odds it seems to be going okay this side of the Channel.

Again more evidence to support pushing the race back.

Here it is doing slowly. We take care and we only have to wait for our time to be vaccined. Motorbikes are behind closed doors and I've been refunded. Absolutely no news about June. I fear it will be delayed to september because it is not sure enough french people will be vaccinated.
We have only to follow the situation's evolution

[john ruston]

Le Mans 24 hr bike race on Bugatti circuit so no problem to do it without spectators
Pretty crap circuit but they had a F1 race there when it was first built.

[batmobile]

There are very Interesting races here without formula 1

Envoyé de mon SM-A600FN en utilisant Tapatalk

[Aysedasi]

Originally Posted by john ruston

Le Mans 24 hr bike race on Bugatti circuit so no problem to do it without spectators
Pretty crap circuit but they had a F1 race there when it was first built.

Yeah, 1967. Eric's problem is that he lives there and he loves the bikes too..... You need to seek out those gaps in the fence again Eric.....

[GT6]

Well not heard anything from the ACO recently but i have just had an email from 1st Tickets, which states that they have heard from the ACO and due to current situation tickets sales are hoped to start in April. So that is better than no news, fingers crossed they are for June but will except later if it means we get to spend some time in Le Mans.

[Kpy]

Originally Posted by Simmi

Doesn't sound like the French have their s**t together when it comes to the vaccine currently. EU delays making life difficult. Would be interested to hear from our French friends on the forum on how it's going. Against all the odds it seems to be going okay this side of the Channel.

I am a French resident and, due to my age, have priority for vaccination second only to residents and staff of care homes. Since the vaccination programme went on line a few weeks ago it has proved impossible to get an appointment anywhere in the Department where I live. The website has been asking me to try again “in a few days” every day since its inception.

[Peter Mallett]

Originally Posted by GT6

Well not heard anything from the ACO recently but i have just had an email from 1st Tickets, which states that they have heard from the ACO and due to current situation tickets sales are hoped to start in April. So that is better than no news, fingers crossed they are for June but will except later if it means we get to spend some time in Le Mans.

So, two months before the event and they won't know the size of crowd etc. Sounds very optimistic to me. If everyone who normally goes, applies for tickets. the admin will be overloaded.

[CTD]

Originally Posted by Kpy

I am a French resident and, due to my age, have priority for vaccination second only to residents and staff of care homes. Since the vaccination programme went on line a few weeks ago it has proved impossible to get an appointment anywhere in the Department where I live. The website has been asking me to try again “in a few days” every day since its inception.

That is horrible!
However I know of danes who are of the same category as you, who are also still waiting to get the vaccine.


In general fairness, comparing UK and EU in regards to vaccine progress should be done with care. The conditions in which vaccines are bought are not comparable, which has granted the UK a headstart to the program. The cost of the headstart is that there is a lesser chance of holding the medical companies responsible for any damages caused by the vaccine. In the EU the medical companies can be held 100% liable to all damages caused by the vaccine. (Worst is Israel, which reportedly sold all citizens health information and signed off liability from the medical companies to get the vaccines first in the quantity they wish)

[Peter Mallett]

I believe the EU caved on the liability issue. The delay was all about price, which was somewhat daft since these things are being sold at cost.

[Kpy]

Originally Posted by GT6

Well not heard anything from the ACO recently but i have just had an email from 1st Tickets, which states that they have heard from the ACO and due to current situation tickets sales are hoped to start in April. So that is better than no news, fingers crossed they are for June but will except later if it means we get to spend some time in Le Mans.

I had an email from them nearly three weeks ago:

"This year’s 24 Hours of Le Mans is scheduled on 12–13 June.
With the current uncertainty, ticket sales will open later than usual, in early April. We will update you on the situation in the meantime. Behind the scenes, everyone at the Automobile Club de l’Ouest is working hard to ensure we can host an event that meets our usual high standards and current health regulations."

I practice I think they've set themselves a deadline in early April to decide whether they can go ahead with the race in June, or not.

[GT6]

Yes i think that is right, so by Early April we may be able to start planning but to be honest even by then it will be hard for them to be certain, however by then hopefully i will have had a jab of some form or other.

[Kpy]

Originally Posted by CTD

That is horrible!
However I know of danes who are of the same category as you, who are also still waiting to get the vaccine.


In general fairness, comparing UK and EU in regards to vaccine progress should be done with care. The conditions in which vaccines are bought are not comparable, which has granted the UK a headstart to the program. The cost of the headstart is that there is a lesser chance of holding the medical companies responsible for any damages caused by the vaccine. In the EU the medical companies can be held 100% liable to all damages caused by the vaccine. (Worst is Israel, which reportedly sold all citizens health information and signed off liability from the medical companies to get the vaccines first in the quantity they wish)

All credit to the UK for the headstart it has taken in vaccination.
I should perhaps have mentioned that in France, and I think elsewhere in the EU, a second jab is mandatory - you are given the date of the second appointment when you book the first. I'm not sure that that happens in the UK.

[Kpy]

Originally Posted by GT6

Yes i think that is right, so by Early April we may be able to start planning but to be honest even by then it will be hard for them to be certain, however by then hopefully i will have had a jab of some form or other.

Quit right Simon, but they will not sell any tickets or confirm a June date unless they are certain.
There's too much at stake financially

[Kpy]

Originally Posted by GT6

by then hopefully i will have had a jab of some form or other.

Fingers crossed!!

[S griffin]

Plenty of reasons to be optimistic for the foreseeable future

[Kpy]

Originally Posted by S griffin

Plenty of reasons to be optimistic for the foreseeable future

In France?

[Peter Mallett]

Originally Posted by GT6

......, however by then hopefully i will have had a jab of some form or other.

Already had my first one. My second head is growing quite nicely now.

[gert]

Originally Posted by Kpy

All credit to the UK for the headstart it has taken in vaccination.
I should perhaps have mentioned that in France, and I think elsewhere in the EU, a second jab is mandatory - you are given the date of the second appointment when you book the first. I'm not sure that that happens in the UK.

Over here, the headstart in the UK is explained (in part, at least) as UK keeping vaccines for themselves.
Things don't advance over here if less than half ofthe number of vacciens that were ordered/promised is delivered.


If you need a second one or not depends on which vaccine you get. There are several around, and some are good in one go while some others need a second go.

[Le Vieux]

Originally Posted by GT6

Yes i think that is right, so by Early April we may be able to start planning but to be honest even by then it will be hard for them to be certain, however by then hopefully i will have had a jab of some form or other.

Had my first jab yesterday (no side effects - yet) and have an appointment for vaccination no.2 in April.

It seems to me that currently, the greater threat to attending the race this summer is whether the UK government rescinds the legislation announced yesterday, which would require us all to spend time in quarantine upon our return.