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13 Dec 2003, 22:54 (Ref:811249)
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Now whos looking for a new engine?
Is the Lister update, to make the car a Hybrid or 2004 spec car? If not when are they planning a 'new' car? |
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13 Dec 2003, 22:59 (Ref:811253)
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It's an update, they have updated the airbox, the aero package and the engine.
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13 Dec 2003, 23:06 (Ref:811260)
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Not a new engine - existing engine - potentially in existing LMP1 car
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14 Dec 2003, 06:38 (Ref:811401)
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14 Dec 2003, 10:39 (Ref:811474)
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14 Dec 2003, 10:44 (Ref:811484)
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Huh... JPX ?
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14 Dec 2003, 13:25 (Ref:811594)
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Someone knows what's going with Durango Engineering ?
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14 Dec 2003, 13:48 (Ref:811612)
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14 Dec 2003, 17:04 (Ref:811687)
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Yup, that's what Durango has announced - the full LMES season. I hope they will show up.
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Right ..... whatever you folks do , dont type DBA04 in the google search engine . Some of you spanish speaking people might get a thrill !!!
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16 Dec 2003, 21:35 (Ref:813465)
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16 Dec 2003, 22:31 (Ref:813536)
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Looks very exciting for European Racing....
and a GREAT time for anyone looking to run ALMS to mount an LMP1 effort... and there are cost-effective ways to do it...as noted in my "Shoestring" thread... Why??? Champion Audi Two Dyson MG-Lolas Two Intersport Cars (Lola B160/Judd & the R&S) Possible runner for the AmeriSuites R&S??? -Still no work on this one....I assume it sold for that great price... That's five prototypes for sure and possibly a sixth.... Now if I'm looking for my best options (other than Petit Le Mans class win) at an automatic bid to Le Mans for Season results.... I'd take my chances on THIS side of the pond!!!!! One-Third of that list consists of grenades on wheels...and they aren't the R&S cars, the Audi, or the Intersport Lola.... If Intersport's racing luck continues like it did for most of last year, they may be doing a lot of bodywork again....(hope not...I like that team!!!) That gives my ALMS LMP1 entry a decent shot at competing for one of those automatic bids.... Sure beats butting heads with double the Audis, RFH, Pescarolo, the two Dallaras, etc., etc., etc...that everyone has listed above in a very full and competitive LMP1 category over there in Europe... I'd like my odds a lot better over here.....and I wouldn't have to drag my car across the Atlantic to compete at Sebring to get a look for a possible LM invite, nor do that hauling in the fall for Petit... From that perspective, ALMS looks like a really sweet deal to me... After all...everything is a matter of perspective... |
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16 Dec 2003, 22:37 (Ref:813547)
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So how many VeloSportUK Audis are we up to so far
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17 Dec 2003, 06:52 (Ref:813715)
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17 Dec 2003, 11:04 (Ref:813879)
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and Audi it said on the LMES race I saw on Motors Monday
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17 Dec 2003, 12:40 (Ref:813971)
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So he's talking to all sorts of people then
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17 Dec 2003, 13:27 (Ref:814027)
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Two Notes:
1. My Audi count is at two -- Team Goh and Audi UK -- with the Sanish team that supposedly has the $$$ to run one (rumored?) would make three...the only one in ALMS I know of is Champion.... 2. Henri said at the LM 1000K (par a thread by Fab) that he had an interest in the Judd 5.0L also...but Fab's post above sounds like those options weren't going to work for his budget... But he is NOT stuck with the Sodemo Peugeots if he will only think outside the box!!!!! No...this will NOT be a "Sprint Car Engine" spin.... Look for a thread I'll be starting today... I have now expanded my search into other areas to add to my "LMP1 on a Shoestring" thread I started, and I can make a strong case for another engine option that is "Dirt Cheap"....and if it is done right, can be done with Turbos!!!! I'm going to call it "Pesca's Solution for Cheap Power".... Don't let the suspense kill you.....I'm confirming a few more details first to amke my case as strong as possible... Stay tuned....I promise it'll be interesting... |
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17 Dec 2003, 18:08 (Ref:814313)
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Tim I think your missing the point with regards to the motives of the Euro teams competing in the LMES.
For many of these teams (particulalry the smaller teams) LM is a bonus, however there main reason for racing is the LMES in Europe. Afterall LM has always been there yet teams such as Rollcentre, Creation, etc. have not entered LMPs at LM. This is because LM on its own was not financially viable for them, and the FIA SCC was not attractive to them for a number of reasons. The Spanish Engineering team for example would only have competed at LM if they had works backing and could win the race. After there 'works' LMGTP program collapsed they were not going to race in prototypes as they could not raise the finace for LM without having a realistic chance to win. The LMES however is easier to sell to sponsors, as over a season they would stand a much better chance of picking up good results and therefore Spanish Engineering plan to compete in prototypes, even without works support. As for the car they will run, that is unknown. The Audi deal seems to have fallen through, but the team claim to have funding in place to run at least one LMP1. The remaining 2002 spec Audi looks like it will go to Veloqux. Champion have first option, but lack the funding and competition in the ALMS to justify running a second car. Its worth bearing in mind that the ACO wants to promote the LMES 1000K events into major races in themselves, which will attract sponsors and teams. Previously FIA SCC teams could only point to LM as a race were they would get significant media coverage. The rest of the FIA SCC was a virtual right in terms of media interest. Hopefully the LMES will be very different and I am certainly as interested in the Silverstone 1000Ks as I am LM. You would have to go back to the Group C days to say something like that. Only the ALMS Silverstone race in 2000 came close in terms of interest. Its also nice to see that after the folly of chasing TV ratings with the 'sprint' races at the end of Group C and Mercedes influenced FIA GT series (GT1 days), that the ACO/Ratel have realiseed the fans, manufactuers and teams (particularly privateers with paying drivers) actually want true Endureance races. IMO the ALMS could learn from this. There most popular races are afterall Sebring and PLM. |
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17 Dec 2003, 18:37 (Ref:814347)
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As mentioned in this thread or another one , that there are two more DBA's under construction . Anyone have any idea if one of these cars is a spare chassis for Creation or are they both earmarked for new teams ?
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17 Dec 2003, 19:00 (Ref:814371)
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In Europe at least the sprints have been a flop and drove many privateer teams away.
As for TV ratings, lets face it Sportscars, basically everthing but F1 in Europe is not going to get great TV ratings. Better to cater for the teams and fans with Endurance races. |
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Any chance of someone running an R&S over here ? Be great to see one caneing it around with Mark Goossens !!!
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