[Driver] Team bosses vote on 09 DOTY

[Marbot]

Vettel gets voted DOTY by team bosses.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80222

Do we agree?

[Peter Mallett]

You do wonder at the criteria used. Would you say that Rubens was better than Mark? Or that Mark and Kimi were equal? I wouldn't.

[Super Hans]

Nobody is ever going to agree 100% but I'd say my top 3 would be the same, just not in the same order.

[Marbot]

Interestingly, Rosberg isn't even in their top ten, nor Heidfeld for that matter. And these are the guys that Mercedes are now pinning their hopes on?

[strider]

It's probably worth doing a quick cut and paste, just so people can see what we are talking about.

 1. Sebastian Vettel       76
 2. Jenson Button          67
 3. Lewis Hamilton         65
 4. Fernando Alonso        39
 5. Rubens Barrichello     35
 6= Kimi Raikkonen         30
 6= Mark Webber            30
 8. Felipe Massa           19
 9. Robert Kubica          10
10. Adrian Sutil           8

It's an interesting thought that if Mercedes do end up with Rosberg and Heidfeld, neither of them features in that list.

I would have put Britney in there somewhere and left out Sutil.

[MrTTraces]

I'd have put Sutil Higher.

[Marbot]

Maybe we should just try and fathom why the team bosses came to their conclusion.

[Marbot]

Originally Posted by strider

It's probably worth doing a quick cut and paste, just so people can see what we are talking about.

Thanks.

[ralf fan]

I am sure Jenson is going to be destroyed. Surely even that WDC trophy he will be receiving won't soften the blow.

[Marbot]

Originally Posted by ralf fan

I am sure Jenson is going to be destroyed. Surely even that WDC trophy he will be receiving won't soften the blow.

Isn't there another thread about Lewis destroying Jenson?

[BertMk2]

Originally Posted by strider

It's an interesting thought that if Mercedes do end up with Rosberg and Heidfeld, neither of them features in that list.

Odd. Kubica appears in the top ten yet Heidfeld had the better year and is absent.

[Marbot]

Originally Posted by BertMk2

Odd. Kubica appears in the top ten yet Heidfeld had the better year and is absent.

He was only perceived by some to have had the better year.

[Knowlesy]

I have to say, from what I saw, Heidfeld seemed to perform a shade better. At best Kubica underwhelmed.

My top three would be Vettel in third, and Hamilton shading Button to DOTY.

I feel Lewis coped well this year when people expected a complete collapse just because he had a bad car. And his wins were top notch. And Button, for me, drove better than Vettel more than the other way round. Sebastien made a series of poor errors and should have been a lot closer in the points to Button and much further ahead of his teammate.

[Mr V]

For sure, Seb made a few error's, not sure i'd call it a "series", but then, even the great Lewis showed how to bin it on the last lap

Seb's error's cost him, but then so did Renault! I'd say that had Seb had the Brawn car this year i don't think that Jenson would be WDC (not that i'm not glad he's WDC because i am!).

[Marbot]

The other interesting thing is that Alonso, although fourth in their list, scored well below the top three. Just how good was Alonso thought to be by some of the team principles?

[Knowlesy]

Originally Posted by Mr V

For sure, Seb made a few error's, not sure i'd call it a "series", but then, even the great Lewis showed how to bin it on the last lap

Yes, but then he wasn't fighting for a title, just going for it every lap.

Not so sure that Seb would be champ in the Brawn. He had an excellent car for about a similar portion of the year as Jenson had.

[Marbot]

Originally Posted by Knowlesy

Yes, but then he wasn't fighting for a title, just going for it every lap.

Agreed. It's one thing to be attacking in hope of winning. Quite another to be defending in fear of losing.

[strider]

This is not strictly speaking the right place, but the topic is the same. In this week's Autosport magazine Mark Hughes has listed his Top Ten drivers, as follows:

1. Lewis Hamilton
2. Jenson Button
3. Sebastian Vettel
4. Mark Webber
5. Robert Kubica
6. Fernando Alonso
7. Felipe Massa
8. Kimi Raikkonen
9. Rubens Barrichello
10. Nico Rosberg

It is different in many respects to the earlier list on here and rather more provocative, I feel. I can see people agreeing with the top four, but not necessarily the rest Why Barrichello only in 9th and why Kubica in 5th but no Heidfeld when Nick outscored him in the same team? Curious.

[Jimmy Magnusson]

Kubica is there because Mark Hughes still thinks he's the second coming, or something. Remember, he had him at no.1 last year! Good grief.

My own list would probably be something like this:
1. Rosberg
2. Button
3. Hamilton
4. Vettel
5. Webber
6. Barrichello
7. Räikkönen
8. Alonso
9. Heidfeld
10. Kobayashi (Yeah, I know)

[jab]

If Autosport were to follow their own ratings through the year

1) Button
2) Hamilton
3) Webber
4) Alonso
5) Massa
6) Vettel
7) Rosberg
8) Barrichello
9) Glock
10) Raikkonen

[Marbot]

I got this poll from the local hairdressers.

1. Rosberg
2. Rosberg
3. Rosberg
4. Rosberg
5. Rosberg
6. Rosberg
7. Rosberg
8. Rosberg
9. Rosberg
10.Rosberg

I guess my point with that is that it all depends on who you ask.