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Old 1 Mar 2005, 17:51 (Ref:1239255)   #1
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Snapper Baz should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridSnapper Baz should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
Just 6 races!

Brands hatch on the 12/13th see's just 6 races per day-Saturday will be best with the Mighty Minis whilst Sunday see's the Alfa's out...seems like a 1 day meeting just spread out!
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Old 1 Mar 2005, 18:35 (Ref:1239299)   #2
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Would be a struggle to fit it all into 1 day but I must admit I was surprised to see the draft timetable showing both days ending just after 4pm. I know the clocks don`t go forward `til Easter weekend but it was still light today at 6.... I would`ve thought they`dve bunged a few double-headers in for some of the formulae to make best use of the time they`ve got. Still, shouldn`t complain, means we can leave before the curfew for a change!!
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Old 1 Mar 2005, 19:19 (Ref:1239326)   #3
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This is odd. It means that unless each race has bumper grids (which isn't really likely at the moment), then the meeting is probably going to run at a loss. I seem to recall talk of at least 8 races with 20 cars in each to break even/make profit at Brands..

I'm surprised the BRSCC have done this, and I'm even more surprised that Dr. Palmer is letting them.
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Old 1 Mar 2005, 19:27 (Ref:1239336)   #4
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They`re also running 4 "test" sessions on the Saturday morning. Could be a nice little earner I guess but if there are no takers then that`s another hour and a half wasted.....
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Old 2 Mar 2005, 08:57 (Ref:1239768)   #5
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The test sessions on sat morning cost an extra £100 for 2 x 15 mins, in addition to the entry fee.

Monoposto are running a Double Header with races on both sat & sun. Perhaps Mono and the MSV FF1600 guys could combine for an additional open race on each day.
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Old 2 Mar 2005, 09:05 (Ref:1239778)   #6
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Not a bad idea, a bit like last years FF1600/MonoKent races - although I'm not sure the serious MSV entrants would bother too much as they are after the championship glory and the £5,000 first prize in the FF1600.

They might get more FF1600 entrants if they did the testing on Sunday am as well...
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Old 2 Mar 2005, 09:27 (Ref:1239814)   #7
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I expect most of the guys that may have the budgets available to warrant considering these test sessions might just go for the "official" MSV test day on the Friday and get more tracktime?
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Old 2 Mar 2005, 09:40 (Ref:1239832)   #8
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True but a bit of a pain in the arse if you live quite a distance away to go on Friday, and then again on the Sunday - a lot of travelling involved or pointless hanging around all day on Saturday.
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Old 2 Mar 2005, 09:54 (Ref:1239842)   #9
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T`is true.
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Old 2 Mar 2005, 10:51 (Ref:1239912)   #10
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True but a bit of a pain in the arse if you live quite a distance away to go on Friday, and then again on the Sunday - a lot of travelling involved or pointless hanging around all day on Saturday.
I must admit that I'm testing on the friday as I think that this is better FVM than the sat morning sessions.

Perhaps the FF1600 runners could enter the sat race for the Monoposto 1600 class & then they would not be "hanging around all day on saturday".
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Old 2 Mar 2005, 10:59 (Ref:1239916)   #11
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At the risk of putting the boot into the BRSCC (again!), it does seem to be a bit of a no-brainer!! Those racing on Sat will, like Andy, probably prefer to go with MSVs Friday sessions. Those racing on Sunday who are not prepared to either fork out the Friday MSV price or "hang around on Saturday" would prob prefer to practice on Sunday morning! Like John said earlier, pushing the free practice sesions over to Sunday would probably get them more revenue.
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Old 2 Mar 2005, 10:59 (Ref:1239917)   #12
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Andy97 testing! Have you won the lottery? LOL.

Hardly in the spirit of Mono is it old boy, eh?

As above, the FF1600 is attracting some serious 'players' and I'm not sure they'd want to risk the car for Mono.

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Old 2 Mar 2005, 11:16 (Ref:1239929)   #13
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Andy97 testing! Have you won the lottery? LOL.

As above, the FF1600 is attracting some serious 'players' and I'm not sure they'd want to risk the car for Mono.
Unfortunately no lottery win yet but I admit that me testing is very unusual! Its probably a one off as Mrs Andy97 is away at a conference and I can therefore get away with a whole weekend away myself. Whether "testing" is a strictly accurate phrase or whether I am just driving round is a moot point. I'll try not to be a mobile chicane!

As for "serious players" not wanting to risk their car in Mono, well, I understand, particularly as prize money is involved, but it is a shame that some aspects of club motorsport are considered to be so serious that an opportunity to race elsewhere is being turned down.

Other threads point to concerns that some grids are small, spectators are not getting vfm, its difficult to attract sponsors and other competitors etc so I am disappointed that an opportunity to pack a grid out is being missed.

Anyway, I understand from the FF1600 topic that there are only 10 "serious players" entered anyway (to date). Perhaps Dr P would like to make them join in with Mono until they can prove that they can sustain their own grids. LOL!
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Old 2 Mar 2005, 19:59 (Ref:1240372)   #14
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Chris Y, my thoughts in one! Yes 12 races would be a push but there seems to have been little logic used by the BRSCC. If they cut down the qualifying time like they did in "Racing Forward" a few years ago. Started maybe around 11.00/11.30 with racing with perhaps a minimum of 14 laps or something 12 races could have been done easily. Time is wasted in the gaps between a session finishing and getting others ready on time. Have the cars on the grid whilst recoveries are taking place and not waiting in the pitlane as per usual...the BRSCC could have done it in one day and saved a whole days circuit hire thus keeping the extra days circuit hire dosh in the bank...and passing it on to the competitors somehow (wink, wink).
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Old 4 Mar 2005, 11:48 (Ref:1242253)   #15
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One thing to remember is that the Friday testing is the circuit testing and the Saturday is BRSCC testing.

It will be interesting to monitor the uptake on the testing.

It could well be an excellent idea which still alklow brief testing at a much reduced cost overall (albeit not if it's Saturday am and race on Sunday)
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Old 4 Mar 2005, 15:25 (Ref:1242404)   #16
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In light of other discussion threads about getting more spectators in to club meetings, I wouldn't pay good money for a day's entertainment and then watch 6 half-grids, so why would we expect Joe Public to?!
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Old 5 Mar 2005, 22:19 (Ref:1243680)   #17
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Brands hatch on the 12/13th see's just 6 races per day-Saturday will be best with the Mighty Minis whilst Sunday see's the Alfa's out...seems like a 1 day meeting just spread out!
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Well done Snapper Baz! Thank you for the info. Despite JP's pledge to bring back close, exciting & full grids to Brands Hatch, the dear old BRSCC are carrying on in their blinkered way, putting on 12 races over 2 days when it could be condensed down to a one day meeting with full grids!! Well, it's nice this time of year to stand around for several hours viewing the picturesque Kent countryside I guess!! NOT!!

Sal (well, Nick actually!! I agree though!!)
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Old 5 Mar 2005, 22:58 (Ref:1243728)   #18
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I know I was one of those earlier on saying that the BRSCC were`nt exactly making best use of their time but people seem to be forgetting that before US (yes, I`m just a sad anorak spectator) there are marshals and competitors to worry about.....

I haven`t done any actual caculations but I think in order to give the marshals a decent-sized lunchbreak (even more necessary given the weather at the mo`) and the competitors a decent-sized helping of laps (for their extortionate entry fee) - the BRSCC would never ever squeeze next weekend`s programme into a single day!!! I know they`re seemingly not always totally correct in what they think/do but I think you`re all being a tad harsh on the BRSCC on this one......
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Old 5 Mar 2005, 23:34 (Ref:1243796)   #19
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I have to say I like the idea of test sessions during the race weekend as it can be very difficult to ge the time to go testing during the week for many amateurs. But is still sounds pretty poor value when compared to the deals available to really popular series eg Sports 2000. Was recently told their entry fee which was for a 30 min warm up, 30 min practise and 20 min race was £200.
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Old 6 Mar 2005, 10:02 (Ref:1244260)   #20
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`Spose it comes from having (as far as I`ve ever seen) really big grids...
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Old 6 Mar 2005, 19:55 (Ref:1244849)   #21
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Testing on weekends would be alot easier & cheaper in the long run
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Old 7 Mar 2005, 17:43 (Ref:1245802)   #22
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Anyone got a timetable for the event?
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Old 7 Mar 2005, 17:48 (Ref:1245811)   #23
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http://www.brscc.co.uk/championships...0Timetable.pdf here you go
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Ok, thanks. Think i'll be going on the sunday. MSV FF did it for that day.
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Old 8 Mar 2005, 10:32 (Ref:1246467)   #25
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Euro Saloons have 23 entries (although this includes Xtreme Mighty Minis), Silhouettes have 9 at the moment, Formula Fords have 12, Monos and Alfas have reasonably strong grids.
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