Live TV LMS? - Page 2

sceptic · 31 Mar 2009, 22:22 (Ref:2430130)

Motors TV no longer has the rights. From what I can gether, Eurosport said they wanted exclusivity or they wouldn't show it at all.

So for this weekend, Eurosport will show 15 minutes before the race starts, then the first fifteen minutes of the race live, then 30 minutes of highlights at half past midnight.

Rodger Davies · 31 Mar 2009, 22:36 (Ref:2430141)

whoever made that decision at LMS HQ needs getting rid off. A loyal and precise target market with 5 hours of exposure or a few minutes of exposure to an audience most of whom couldn't care less? If that's actually the case, then they're idiots.

HORNDAWG · 31 Mar 2009, 23:48 (Ref:2430173)

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Originally Posted by Rodger Davies

whoever made that decision at LMS HQ needs getting rid off. A loyal and precise target market with 5 hours of exposure or a few minutes of exposure to an audience most of whom couldn't care less? If that's actually the case, then they're idiots.

I'll second that!

L.P.

WMUCarGuy · 1 Apr 2009, 06:52 (Ref:2430323)

I wonder if that ADTHE site will stream it?

Acid09 · 1 Apr 2009, 14:42 (Ref:2430639)

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I wonder if that ADTHE site will stream it?

Those streaming sites can only stream what's available somewhere. If no complete feed of the race will be procuded and made available to any station, there is no way to stream it.

rustycrankshaft · 1 Apr 2009, 15:00 (Ref:2430647)

First post here, so hi everybody.

I'm absolutely gutted about the LMS coverage this year, Aston's first proper outting and we can't watch it, whats wrong with the organisers!

Just worth noting however, if you can get Eurosport France, they have a 1 hour slot of the finish of the 1000kms in addition to the coverage the rest of us get. Surprising as their are no peugeots competing. You'll have to look at their schedule, I think its 1800CET but not sure.

Not great but better than nothing, now just need to find a stream of Eurosport France... happy hunting.

JAG · 1 Apr 2009, 16:32 (Ref:2430697)

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Originally Posted by sceptic

Motors TV no longer has the rights. From what I can gether, Eurosport said they wanted exclusivity or they wouldn't show it at all.

So for this weekend, Eurosport will show 15 minutes before the race starts, then the first fifteen minutes of the race live, then 30 minutes of highlights at half past midnight.

It's on Eurosport UK-

10.15am-11am Live

11.45am-12.15pm Live

11.00pm-11.30pm Highlights

zac510 · 1 Apr 2009, 18:57 (Ref:2430799)

Why do they go to all of the trouble of cameras, a production team, etc etc all for 60 minutes of TV time?

JAG · 1 Apr 2009, 21:52 (Ref:2430910)

Well, it's on for almost 2 hours on Eurosport UK alone, plus repeats, and highlights on other stations like Sky Sports.

Motors TV's coverage was comprehensive, but the audience is tiny, I still expect streaming LMS coverage to go live sooner or later.

Breitling24 · 1 Apr 2009, 23:20 (Ref:2430957)

Television state-side, we get ALMS chopped, delayed, cut into for NASCoT. We get no LMS, at all. Across the pond, you all get LMS chopped, and ALMS total live coverage. Man, who's in charge of this stuff?

deggis · 2 Apr 2009, 10:18 (Ref:2431211)

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Originally Posted by Rodger Davies

whoever made that decision at LMS HQ needs getting rid off. A loyal and precise target market with 5 hours of exposure or a few minutes of exposure to an audience most of whom couldn't care less? If that's actually the case, then they're idiots.

Same idiots thought it would be good idea if Le Mans reached 100+ million households instead of MotorsTV's 15 million homes.

LeMans.pt · 2 Apr 2009, 12:34 (Ref:2431335)

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Same idiots thought it would be good idea if Le Mans reached 100+ million households instead of MotorsTV's 15 million homes.

Sure... god save those idiots! Wanna bet how much time will endure LMS with this "kind of" TV coverage? Do you expect the return of Peugeot or Audi, or some other make that desieres to bild up an endurance team with this marvelous coverage?

It is a good deal for Le Mans, no question about it, but a nive and clean throat cut on LMS!

LeMans.pt · 2 Apr 2009, 12:38 (Ref:2431339)

Frankly, we have what we deserve, because as i see, the interest in discuss this theme is almost zero!!!! Do we expect some kind of protest? Are the fans going to show that they want a proper TV coverage? You can bet that i will show my opinion in the 1000km of Algarve...

Keep you arms crossed... that surely gonna make things change!

Rodger Davies · 2 Apr 2009, 13:25 (Ref:2431381)

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Originally Posted by deggis

Same idiots thought it would be good idea if Le Mans reached 100+ million households instead of MotorsTV's 15 million homes.

maybe so but there's no way the two should be linked together as a TV package. Eurosport would want the 24 Hours anyway as it's a good revenue earner, that's no reason to take the LMS coverage backwards from where it was last year.

SALEEN S7R · 2 Apr 2009, 14:20 (Ref:2431443)

I've stayed out of this thread and just kept a eye on what was being said and to be honest I am suprised there isnt more of a uproar than there is considering the coverage we are getting from Eurosport is as bad as it is. How many people remember the days when Eurosport did the FIA GT coverage? Even the FIA GT championship back then got better tv coverage than this and the LMS is a much stronger series now than FIA GT was back then.

I understand why the ACO have chosen Eurosport over Motors TV, but with the kind of coverage Eurosport are offering nobody much will be tuning in to watch the end of the race so why bother showing it at all?! Sure there will be the hardcore fans that tune in such as us here on ten-tenths but your average punter isnt going to watch the start of the race and then spend the rest of the afternoon switching back over for a 30 minute slot and then back to something else again.

Why oh why the ACO didnt leave the coverage with Motors TV is beyond me, if Eurosport were offering a decent tv deal for the LMS then of course that is where it should be, but going by what they are offering for this weekend at least they arent. Yes Le Mans may well get decent enough coverage but the LMS is important too.

Martyn_ · 2 Apr 2009, 15:27 (Ref:2431522)

Pretty sure last season there were some streams available from German Eurosport or something. I'd guess that some of the Eurosport channels (in other countries) are showing more than what we get in the UK?

airbusA346 · 2 Apr 2009, 16:16 (Ref:2431568)

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Originally Posted by Martyn_

Pretty sure last season there were some streams available from German Eurosport or something. I'd guess that some of the Eurosport channels (in other countries) are showing more than what we get in the UK?

http://www.lemans-series.com/en/s52_....php?circuit=2

Tom.

Cuttlefish · 2 Apr 2009, 16:50 (Ref:2431589)

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Originally Posted by airbusA346

http://www.lemans-series.com/en/s52_....php?circuit=2

Tom.

Now who here has Nova TV they'd like to stream for all of us =)

Hopefully it'll end up as a torrent, at the very least.

Emillian Stoyko · 2 Apr 2009, 16:51 (Ref:2431590)

Every race will be available Live and in full on the Eurosport Player. I greatly rocommend subscribing to the Players, because the quality will be far greater than regular streams and the price is not high at all, also there are discounts for a longer subscription. And combined with the Radio Le Mans commentary from Round 2 the coverage will be fantastic. Please spread around this info if you post on other forums.

Also the guy from Eurosport that was quoted has 6-weeks old info. Yes, the coverage on the main channels is not what it should be, but it's not quite that bad. For Spa the first 30 minutes AND the final hour will be Live. Also for Portiamo there is 2 hours and 45 minutes of live coverage. First 30 minutes and last 2:15 hours!

JAG · 2 Apr 2009, 16:53 (Ref:2431592)

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Originally Posted by LeMans.pt

Sure... god save those idiots! Wanna bet how much time will endure LMS with this "kind of" TV coverage? Do you expect the return of Peugeot or Audi, or some other make that desieres to bild up an endurance team with this marvelous coverage?

It is a good deal for Le Mans, no question about it, but a nive and clean throat cut on LMS!

I'm struggling to understand this logic, each LMS event will recieve more live and highlights coverage, on a major sports TV station, than the WTCC and WRC. Just because each race is 1000k's doesn't mean live coverage of the entire race is necessary for the manufacturers and sponsors to get a return on their investment, in fact complete live coverage is unrealistic on anything but a niche TV channel.

Other than blue ribbon events like Le Mans I'll put money on the audience dropping more than 50% after the first hour, with the majority of general sports fans watching the series predominantly as a highlights package.

Personnally I tune out after the first hour when the pit stops kick in and keep upto date with the internet and RLM, ideally there'll be an internet stream that I can run in the background.

The future for series like the LMS is a TV package as is, and a comprehensive official streaming service.

LeMans.pt · 2 Apr 2009, 17:13 (Ref:2431607)

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Originally Posted by Martyn_

Pretty sure last season there were some streams available from German Eurosport or something. I'd guess that some of the Eurosport channels (in other countries) are showing more than what we get in the UK?

here in portugal they will show exactly the same as in UK.

isynge · 2 Apr 2009, 17:22 (Ref:2431616)

Emillian's comments are hugely welcome, and I think match closely with what what Jag has said and what I've kind of thought for a while. The future for sportscar coverage is almost certainly live, comprehensive coverage on a narrowcast platform - such as the Eurosport player, with highlights on something a bit more mainstream broadcast, such as full on Eurosport.

Where I think Eurosport, and the LMS could have scored a lot more highly is in making it abundantly and unambiguously clear that this is what they were doing; this is the real problem with the LMS in particular - it's really pretty indifferent at communicating directly with its supporters, and this undercuts some of the really fantastic work it does.

Steven Humphrey · 2 Apr 2009, 17:24 (Ref:2431619)

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Originally Posted by JAG

Other than blue ribbon events like Le Mans I'll put money on the audience dropping more than 50% after the first hour

This even happens at the actual circuits! Silverstone had 50,000 spectators last year but the place was nearly deserted by the chequered flag.

LeMans.pt · 2 Apr 2009, 17:42 (Ref:2431641)

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Originally Posted by JAG

I'm struggling to understand this logic, each LMS event will recieve more live and highlights coverage, on a major sports TV station, than the WTCC and WRC.(...)

Huh? You got to be joking...

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Originally Posted by JAG

(...)Just because each race is 1000k's doesn't mean live coverage of the entire race is necessary for the manufacturers and sponsors to get a return on their investment, in fact complete live coverage is unrealistic on anything but a niche TV channel.

Agree! It's unrealistic a full major TV (underline that) coverage of a 1000km. But, at least you should have the first and the last half-hour. Everyone, hardcore or not, that likes to follow motorsports, want to know how it ends!

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Originally Posted by JAG

Other than blue ribbon events like Le Mans I'll put money on the audience dropping more than 50% after the first hour, with the majority of general sports fans watching the series predominantly as a highlights package.

I'm not an 'majority of general sports fans', i'm a motorsport fan and i deserve nor less or more that someone else.

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Originally Posted by JAG

Personnally I tune out after the first hour when the pit stops kick in and keep upto date with the internet and RLM, ideally there'll be an internet stream that I can run in the background.

That's fine to me! Last year i kept my TV always tuned on Motors, with RLM on the speakers (I hove french Motors TV).... Give me an full live web streaming and i will shut my mouth!

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Originally Posted by JAG

The future for series like the LMS is a TV package as is, and a comprehensive official streaming service.

Probably... but don't see very much future on an TV package as is. As i said, the minimum is the transmission of the first and last half hour. People cam follow the beginning of the race, listen to the commentators previews on the race, side news.... and then turn on to see how it ends. Then, an real highlights of the race earlier, and for 'real' i mean more that 26 minutes!!

Full live streaming on the web! Now, this one surely is the future for any kind of sports! Paid or not!

LeMans.pt · 2 Apr 2009, 17:45 (Ref:2431644)

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Originally Posted by Emillian Stoyko

Every race will be available Live and in full on the Eurosport Player.

All the 6 hours? Can´t find nothing about it on eurosport website. Can you confirm that?