FIA GT1 World Championship is go - Page 4

Purist · 14 Jul 2009, 00:18 (Ref:2501255)

So, the Camaros P&M is working on for Grand Am are being done at the behest of GM?

Like I said above, the new GT1s aren't that terribly slow, and they haven't been out on track that long. Biagi turned a 1:14.4 in the race at Adria in the Matech Ford GT, and the pair of Ford GTs came 6th and 7th at Oschersleben (ahead of 4 Saleens and the Nissan GTR).

HORNDAWG · 14 Jul 2009, 03:12 (Ref:2501304)

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Originally Posted by Purist

So, the Camaros P&M is working on for Grand Am are being done at the behest of GM?

Like I said above, the new GT1s aren't that terribly slow, and they haven't been out on track that long. Biagi turned a 1:14.4 in the race at Adria in the Matech Ford GT, and the pair of Ford GTs came 6th and 7th at Oschersleben (ahead of 4 Saleens and the Nissan GTR).

If you are talking about the, Riley built, Koni challenge cars? Then yes, he was awarded the gig through GM! here

This is also not the Halo GM flagship racer being built & raced by GM's 'works' team!

It will be a Riley built arrive and drive customer car, here, Day and Night!

L.P.

Speed-King · 14 Jul 2009, 07:02 (Ref:2501352)

P&M are working on new bodywork(s) for the GXP.Rs in Rolex GT.

Subaru_WRX_STi · 14 Jul 2009, 11:22 (Ref:2501484)

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Aston Martin more than just a rumor now!

Customers asked them for up(down??)grade kits for the DBR9 and they'll supply them if the FIA agrees.

if the FIA and SRO agree for AMR, for sure Corvette will ask the same for the C6.R. The MC12 and S7-R will be for sure removed as they are "supercars"

PorscheFanNo1 · 14 Jul 2009, 14:37 (Ref:2501607)

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Originally Posted by Subaru_WRX_STi

if the FIA and SRO agree for AMR, for sure Corvette will ask the same for the C6.R. The MC12 and S7-R will be for sure removed as they are "supercars"

Indeed, we'd end up with Nissan, Ford, Ferrari, Lambo, Aston and Corvette where the last 3 are grandfatherd GT1s and the Ferrari is an upgraded GT2 car. Only 2 cars will actually be cars originally designed for the new regulations.

I'm not complaining tho, I'd be more then happy to see those 6 cars battle it out!

geeteeone · 14 Jul 2009, 15:49 (Ref:2501634)

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Originally Posted by PorscheFanNo1

Indeed, we'd end up with Nissan, Ford, Ferrari, Lambo, Aston and Corvette where the last 3 are grandfatherd GT1s and the Ferrari is an upgraded GT2 car. Only 2 cars will actually be cars originally designed for the new regulations.

The Lamborghini Murcielago SV is an all-new car designed to the 2010 rules, not a modified Murcielago R-GT, although I'm sure there is a lot of carry over.

Bob Riebe · 14 Jul 2009, 18:22 (Ref:2501756)

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You actually think that Pratt & Miller would go against the wishes of Doug Fehan and GM as it concerns the C6.Rs?

Hmm, biting the hand that feeds you, not to smart nor very good for business as a mfg's 'works' builder!
L.P.

And if the "works" would quit factory racing, because of a collapsed business climate, not taking other projects simply to remain the "works" builder is obtuse from a business sense.

HORNDAWG · 14 Jul 2009, 18:45 (Ref:2501769)

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And if the "works" would quit factory racing, because of a collapsed business climate, not taking other projects simply to remain the "works" builder is obtuse from a business sense.

But the "works" has not quit racing, nor does it seem they plan to as the Corvette program is a winner for the business! Reality is often a female dog! P&M are still under contract and, if GM stays, will more than likely renew, obtuse my arse.

L.P.

PorscheFanNo1 · 14 Jul 2009, 20:31 (Ref:2501843)

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Originally Posted by geeteeone

The Lamborghini Murcielago SV is an all-new car designed to the 2010 rules, not a modified Murcielago R-GT, although I'm sure there is a lot of carry over.

True, but I belive I heard they would carry over A LOT from the R-GT as it would cost way too much for them to develope it from the ground up. But yeah, still theres 2 grandfatherd cars and one upgraded GT2 car. One can just hope that for the 2nd year of the new GT1 those 3 manufacturers (Aston, Vette, Ferrari) will develope new real GT1 cars, wishful thinking maybe? Still, I belive those 6 manufacturers are the right ones to be in GT1, only thing I can complain about is that Porsche isnt one of them.

Gingers4Justice · 14 Jul 2009, 20:39 (Ref:2501846)

The whole thing is ridiculous. It will never last.

tux1234 · 14 Jul 2009, 21:42 (Ref:2501884)

ok im sorry Horndawg perhaps i may have misunderstood something i read about Pratt & Miller concerning the 2010 world championship. I realise my post was misleading and again i appologise.

pitviper · 16 Jul 2009, 02:16 (Ref:2502551)

I would love to see a GT1-aero F430 Scuderia. Maybe a bit of a SuperGT influence, like the Ford GT seems to have.

this-ish perhaps:

pit

Mal · 16 Jul 2009, 06:15 (Ref:2502572)

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Originally Posted by pitviper

I would love to see a GT1-aero F430 Scuderia. Maybe a bit of a SuperGT influence, like the Ford GT seems to have.

this-ish perhaps:

pit

We are more likely to see a 599 based Gt1 imo

JAG · 16 Jul 2009, 13:34 (Ref:2502772)

I'd prefare GT2 or GT3 Evo's like the 430 with more extreme aero and bigger restrictor's.

IMO going for big 599's etc., weighing 1300kg+, with only 600bhp is the wrong direction.

Overweight car's will destroy their speed and spectacle.

**chunterer** · 16 Jul 2009, 15:56 (Ref:2502836)

Yeah but this class of racing, at the top end of it anyway, has always been about 'big bangers' they look and sound better surely and are often the flagship car in the range, unless we're talking about specials like the original GT1's from 12-15 years ago?

However, I can't see Ferrari doing a 599 either, much simpler to 'alter' a 430.

MJ_N_09 · 17 Jul 2009, 03:26 (Ref:2503085)

Apparently, Audi want in on GT1 as well...

JayBMS · 17 Jul 2009, 08:58 (Ref:2503174)

Ferrari have allready said they won't do a 599 gt1, they are looking at upgrading the 430 though

Mal · 17 Jul 2009, 09:27 (Ref:2503190)

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Originally Posted by JayBMS

Ferrari have allready said they won't do a 599 gt1, they are looking at upgrading the 430 though

We will see

Also There is no way they will do a 430 based car now with its replacement due to be revealed in the next few weeks.

JAG · 17 Jul 2009, 22:17 (Ref:2503555)

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Originally Posted by chunterer

Yeah but this class of racing, at the top end of it anyway, has always been about 'big bangers' they look and sound better surely and are often the flagship car in the range, unless we're talking about specials like the original GT1's from 12-15 years ago?

However, I can't see Ferrari doing a 599 either, much simpler to 'alter' a 430.

Is the 599 Ferrari's flagship car, or just a pacey grand tourer?

If money was no option I'd be buying a top of the range 430 (or replacement) not what I see as a slower, luxory cruiser in the 599.

599's, DB9's and such are Bentley rival's, the GT racing focus is on the 430 Scuderia's, 911 GT3's, Gallardo's and such.

If you wish to move a step higher you need to look at Zonda R's, Enzo's etc., but then your into $1m hyper car's, and moving into P1 territory.

gucom · 20 Jul 2009, 16:40 (Ref:2504970)

ive never driven anything close to a ferrari so I'm just going on what the magazines say... but they say the 599 is a great grand tourer but an even better supercar, really, really hard if you're pushing it. It's not merely a replacement for the 550/575 Maranello, it's a class up in terms of hardcore sportscar abilities (Ferrari themselves described it as a replacement for the F40, which to me sounds a bit too much, but it does signal that this car is meant to be a properly quick car)

Gingers4Justice · 20 Jul 2009, 16:44 (Ref:2504972)

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Originally Posted by JayBMS

Ferrari have allready said they won't do a 599 gt1

Ferrari say lots of things. For all we know they could announce the projects completion later today!

Belly13 · 21 Jul 2009, 07:53 (Ref:2505251)

Has anyone seen a draft calendar for 2010, and what are the chances of the championship coming to Australia?

Speed-King · 21 Jul 2009, 08:25 (Ref:2505264)

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Has anyone seen a draft calendar for 2010, and what are the chances of the championship coming to Australia?

Actually, the chances are pretty good. There was an article about that on endurance-info.com recently.

Here

Belly13 · 21 Jul 2009, 09:00 (Ref:2505293)

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Originally Posted by Speed-King

Actually, the chances are pretty good. There was an article about that on endurance-info.com recently.

Here

Thanks mate, any idea when the actual calendar will be released?

Gingers4Justice · 21 Jul 2009, 12:09 (Ref:2505402)

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Originally Posted by Belly13

Has anyone seen a draft calendar for 2010, and what are the chances of the championship coming to Australia?

Autosport published that it's going to Eastern Creek, which will be modified into a clock-wise circuit. Also, many of the corners will be tightened.

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