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16 Oct 2001, 13:17 (Ref:161418)
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Credit where Credit's due!
DC has secured 2nd in the championship in a year that has been dogged by bad luck and in what is probably the 3rd best car on the grid.
Isn't it about time the DC knockers gave some credit where it is due and congratulated DC on a well deserved 2nd place! Robert |
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16 Oct 2001, 13:27 (Ref:161425)
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CONGRATULATIONS DC!!!, finishing second in a place where the first place is the only thing that matters must be a great price for your work this year, as some say the runner up is the first looser of them all. The scottish must be dancing in one foot for his underachievements this season, I can't even think all the congrats cards and e-mails he will receive, and specially Ron Dennis's party bash for the 2nd place driver.
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16 Oct 2001, 14:06 (Ref:161437)
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It's all relative!
Perhaps I missing the plot a bit, but I wouldn't mind finishing second to MS! I'd be quite chuffed especially not having as decent a car or technology.
Come on Kuchi - wouldn't your mates be impressed if that had been you? Or, would you like all of them to slag you off publically for being such a useless driver and only coming 'second' in the 'world'? 
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16 Oct 2001, 14:15 (Ref:161441)
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Join Date: Dec 2000
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I must agree. DC overcame horrid reliability and the third best car on the grid to beat RB and RS fair and square. So many people dis the guy... while there are so many REAL schmucks out there.
in a somewhat related comment: I must admit gaining a newfound respect for Rubens after his remarks about the 911 attacks at the USGP. Eloquent, genuine, almost profound. Never hear that from Hak or R Schu. |
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16 Oct 2001, 14:17 (Ref:161443)
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Congrats DC!! <for the parade of totally awesome babes on pit lane over the years>
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16 Oct 2001, 14:24 (Ref:161447)
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Kudos go out to Michael Schumacher and Ferrari for their doiminating performance this season.
Also, congrats to David Coulthard for being the strongest challenger to MS this year. McLaren obviously did not do their job this year after seeing DC's and Mika Hakkinen's reliability issues this year. Too bad Rubens Barrichello is hangstung by Ferrari as he should have been second best this year. His Ferrari was far too fragile as compared to his teammates. When he was running he was usually very fast. I think poor pit strategy kept him off the podium at Suzuka. Congrats to Juan Pablo Montoya, Ralf Schumacher and Williams for at least casting doubts on who might win each GP. Both of the Williams drivers took wins from MS and Ferrari but had far too many failures to make a serious push for the title. JPM has shown that he is defintely not afraid of MS nor intimidated and is eager to beat the man. Ralf needs to buckle down and not allow JPM to run away with the team and essentially leave him unsupported by Williams. |
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16 Oct 2001, 14:47 (Ref:161462)
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I think DC had his best year yet, credit to him. But if the drives were reversed - and DC was No 1 at Ferrari, with MS in the Mclaren - who'd have come out on top? Schumi would have "kicked arse" with the bosses early in the season and secured the machinery needed, in my opinion. Which is where we see that what you need to be F1 champ is much more than rapid driving.
I'm not sure Rubens is hamstrung at Ferrari, at least not in the way that KC suggests... Sure he's under team orders, but I don't think even Ferrari are capable of making a more fragile car for the number two - what would be the point when he's contractually obliged to yield in any case? If MS can get the required pace that little bit more easily than his team mate, then slightly better relibility would be the natural result. In any case Ferrari reliability has been second to none in 2001, and Rubens really should have been able to take better advantage. Having the best machinery is not just luck - it's skill, planning and perseverance. Plus luck! |
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16 Oct 2001, 15:58 (Ref:161487)
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Erm...if anybody thinks Rubens was screwed up by Ferrari, i'm sorry to say i take an opposing stance.
Ruben's car reliability is very much impressive, and i really don't see any way that Michael's car was built more reliable than Rubens... in fact, the difference in reliability between the 2 Ferrari is almost negligible compared to Mclaren and Williams. And yes, Rubens is a quick driver, and had hinted at his potential with USA and Monza. But like DC and Eddie, he just can't seem to string it over a season long, unlike Michael. And yeah, you can say Ruben's pit strategy was wrong in Suzuka. But that's on hindsight. If you look at the senario before the race, it is very much the logical choice to make. Its gain all or lose all for 2nd place in the WDC. Rubens just could not make the strategy work to his advantage, something he have to improve upon... DC...okay, he had some tough luck, but i think 2nd is the most he deserve this year anyway. His closest rival Montoya had worse luck, and i think there is no way to say DC could beat Michael or deserves WDC this year... Credit be given... DC earned his 2nd, but any misfortunes he suffered had been neutralised by the same misfortunes of his rivals... |
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16 Oct 2001, 16:12 (Ref:161494)
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Congrats DC, you really deserved the 2nd place in WDC...
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16 Oct 2001, 16:36 (Ref:161505)
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Sorry, I did not mean to infer that Ferrari deliberately sent out RB with a failure in his car. I meant only that the failures he suffered hamstrung his run at second place. I realize now how my words sounded.
The straetgy at Suzuka to run light and sprint allowed DC to make one stop and run more consistent laps. In the long run it hurt him this time. At Indy, the strategy looked good because he would have at least caught MH before the end. Maybe he could have passed MH, the Ferrari was very strong on the long straight, but maybe MH holds him off. As it went a failure destroyed his chances. Certainly hindsight is 20/20. |
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17 Oct 2001, 08:55 (Ref:161839)
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Yeah, ok, I'll give DC credit..........
..............for finishing 58 points behind TGF!!! 
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17 Oct 2001, 10:29 (Ref:161878)
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How can DC be judged anything but a winner! |
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17 Oct 2001, 10:32 (Ref:161879)
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I agree totally with GT-R, some damm fine points raised there.
especailly the bit about DC being quick but never seems to be able to do it all season. Inspired stuff. it's a shame but he seems to lack the final ingredients doesn't he. |
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17 Oct 2001, 18:58 (Ref:162153)
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Hey, I'll congratulate DC on a fine 2nd place in the WC as well. I've never found him to be anything short of admirable and a good driver.
I just don't think he's WC material. There's nothing wrong with that, is there?. I think it's an honest assessment of how I feel. |
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