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26 May 2024, 19:07 (Ref:4210447) | #76 | |
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Purely down to the hybrid rules though (the Sutton part). Might be a bit biased as I cheer for him, I admit, but I really don't like the fact that a championship leader just can't get a pole and can't win races. I get no one likes seeing one driver walking away with a title but on the other hand it's pretty anticlimactic when a frontrunner just needs to be in a damage limitation mode all the time.
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Still, every one of those support traces was 100x more entertaining than the Monaco Grand Prix....... (Mind you, the proliferation of classes and sub-classes in the races is pretty bewildering to the casual observer).
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If Sutton stays so consistent that allows him to lead the whole season, I can actually imagine a scenario in which he becomes a champion without a race win. Probably a lot of things would need to align and BTCC is too unpredictable for that but such a scenario is not completely out of question IMO. |
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This is not a new phenomenon, though. For example, in 2018, Turkington won the championship with just one win from 30 races with 6 seconds and 3 third places. Without spending goodness knows how many hours trawling through the records, I feel that this also applied in other years for other drivers since there have been rules for trying to stop one driver or team running away with the championship. And this is why, as was commented on from the comms box this afternoon, Sutton has adapted his driving style since his earlier years and now more often settles for the points rather than always fighting to get right to the front; I don't mean that he doesn't try to bring the best results home, but he now uses discretion. A lot like Turkington has done for years. |
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Although it’s an easy target would it not be best to judge rules once we have a meeting where we don’t see 4 seasons in one day . Was hoping for dry weather for race 2 so as to see affect of the enforced hard tyre rule but mid race shower scuppered it for the brave . At least though Ingram Sutton and Turkington all got around the rule by using unfavourable tyre in race 2 with suitable results . Sutton consistency is winning day only because the other 3 title contenders have had one terrible day or race . Interesting choice by Hill and Watson to go on wets rather than Hards in last race . Hill ended up alongside Thompson so possibly would have been better by taking the Hard tyre but his early race charge gave him a point for leading race . The less tyre friendly Toyota of Watson showed this to be a bad choice as probably been in top 10 using Hard tyre , especially when you factor in mid grid infighting of others . Cookie seems to be playing along party lines this year . He is usually quicker and more aggressive than Moffat but losing out on track . However he is another whose consistency is winning out . Seats seemed to have better day than PMR today bar the problems Smiley had in race 2 and subsequent accident that resulted from starting at back in final race . All drivers now scored points with Halstead sadly missing opportunity to hoover up some in race 2 had he started on wets also. One too many trips on the crazy cart maybe !
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27 May 2024, 07:12 (Ref:4210648) | #89 | |
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Since this is my local track I went on Saturday and paid for my art by huddling under an umbrella in a Kwik fit bin bag for a few hours . Basic but better than nothing thanks guys . Lunch went home again to be replaced by comfort food of a bacon sarnie on track and a trip to Maccie D just off track for tea. No complaints re amount of races but those that were carried over from Donington were confused and the drivers found themselves in the same weather as they left in the East Midlands . Minis are usually fun but Dan Z is too quick for them this year . Give him a tourer someone . At least in that class a small team can hold its own , well done Lydia W . The F4 class has never been my favourite and the number of slightly jiggled grids confuse rather than add action as car performance doesn’t allow for charges through the field but you do see a new face take its time to shine at the front and we can watch out for them in F1 maybe in a dozen or so years .
Remembering it was the first race of the year the Porsches are a serious bit of kit but everyone was being a little cautious with their new very expensive toys . Promise for future and now much closer to Porsche Carrera cup. Radicals are pointless filler for me. Slow pedestrian and a cumbersome class system not for me . At least giving the perennial victor a drive through penalty in a shortened race gave it some credence . We need that low cost junior serious like the Ginetta full of drivers with the spirit of youthful bravado but not restrained by budget and the discipline of wings etc seen in F4 . One final thought not one serious accident during the whole weekend meaning no race stops or red flags . Well done guys . Anyone seen how to have a monster shunt had to watch the pros on F1 which otherwise was for the paint drying brigade . |
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I also think that TOCA are introducing too many gimmicks, and even the teams are unable to fully appreciate the rules surrounding them, hence the confusion about the hard compound tyres for the final race. However, I don't know how to now find out about how the hybrid was used by various drivers, but my recollection is that Sutton managed to find his way from last spot on the grid and get up to 5th whilst using almost none of his available hybrid. The guy is just on another level, and does get his results without putting other drivers off track. |
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I think Sutton did use a few laps of hybrid in Race 3, don't remember how many though. But yeah, he still seems a man to beat, although we've already seen Turkington and Hill reborn this year + Ingram is strong as always. Adding to that hybrid allocation hurting Sutton much more than last year, and I think any of the four can grab the title this year. |
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I’m glad Paul O’Neill has questioned the need for it on coverage a couple times now, although can’t imagine Gow would be too happy he did! I’m sure it’s as much there for Goodyear marketing. |
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27 May 2024, 08:40 (Ref:4210664) | #94 | |
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I know he’s been well praised, but Thompson was the second-highest scorer this weekend on his debut. Looked far better - in my biased fanboy opinion - than Turkington or Morgan already.
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27 May 2024, 08:45 (Ref:4210665) | #95 | ||
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I think what I saw here is that the wet tyres can go further into dry conditions than I first thought. I know by about lap 8 Hill began to fall back in race 3 but his wets hung on well.
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He finished in the same position that he started, whereas if he'd been on the hards, he'd have finished lower than he started. Clever thinking.
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Day number 125670493 of waiting for SV8Predator to say something positive
to be fair, i think it's a more than valid point originally raised when you compare an on the pace Bobby Thompson going backwards on the hard tyre. Seems like a very clever idea to start Jake on the wets and make hay whilst the sun shines before the slicks become quicker, rather than struggling all race on hard tyres |
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