LMS 2011 Discussion - Page 6

Deleted · 1 Dec 2010, 11:38 (Ref:2798060)

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Originally Posted by LeMans.pt

Yep... some guys call that a circuit

It's not too bad for touring cars. Well, in the wet at least.

The Badger · 3 Dec 2010, 20:42 (Ref:2799259)

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Originally Posted by CTD

Wow!...
That's not gonna happend!, not with Lola still existing.

I happen to think that the Oreca is the better car . 4th overall at le Mans and coming closer to hastleing the factory cars that any Lola did .

If I had the wedge tomorrow , I would be buying an Oreca , or waiting to see how that Riley does .

CTD · 4 Dec 2010, 12:33 (Ref:2799492)

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Originally Posted by The Badger

I happen to think that the Oreca is the better car . 4th overall at le Mans and coming closer to hastleing the factory cars that any Lola did .

If I had the wedge tomorrow , I would be buying an Oreca , or waiting to see how that Riley does .

Still. There will be so many chassis manufactures, that Lola will be the safest choice as they have so much experience.
But still, 5-6 Oreca cars is unrealistic, as that would mean the other manufactures sell only 1-2 cars each!

JAG · 4 Dec 2010, 20:00 (Ref:2799627)

Oreca may have a heads up on the competition with teams upgrading from LMPC's.

CTD · 4 Dec 2010, 21:26 (Ref:2799665)

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Originally Posted by JAG

Oreca may have a heads up on the competition with teams upgrading from LMPC's.

Thats right!, they know Oreca very well from the LMPC cars. But how many LMP2 cars will be given an entry next year!?

JAG · 4 Dec 2010, 21:43 (Ref:2799672)

An entry into what, the LMS?

I think everyone who wants to race will get an entry. It's interesting Oreca are predicting such sales yet so little has been announced officially.

I also read Norma are building two or three P2 cars.

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VdeV go out a little. Have you heard about the M200 LMP2?

"There are good prospects. We have two cars in the workshop which are virtually complete, and we have a third frame. I can tell you more soon."

http://translate.google.com/translat...ance-5678.html

CTD · 4 Dec 2010, 22:12 (Ref:2799685)

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Originally Posted by JAG

An entry into what, the LMS?

I think everyone who wants to race will get an entry. It's interesting Oreca are predicting such sales yet so little has been announced officially.

I also read Norma are building two or three P2 cars.

LMS, Le Mans, ALMS, ILMC...
Because if Oreca fields 5-6 cars
Norma 2-3 cars
Lola probably 3-4 Cars
Zytek 1-2 Cars
Pescarolo (chassis) 2-3 Cars?
Thats's a minimum on 13 cars!
That together with some LMP1's, and whole lot of Gt's, is going to be packed fields with someone left out...

AndrewF31 · 5 Dec 2010, 22:52 (Ref:2800128)

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Originally Posted by Gil Abobeleira

Yet, Portimão is soo much better than Estoril... And I live less than 30 minutes from there!

If only it had been built in the north of Portugal

Even in the off-season, the track is a bit in the middle of nowhere, but it should be cheaper to go there then in July.
However, the fact the circuit is TBC, it's most likely a question between Estoril and Portimão. The fact they haven't chosen Estoril already is because Estoril is not exactly a bit sportscar track anymore. Since all the troubles they had plus that 'hair-pin-chicane-snail-twist" that was added which is not really suited for big and wide cars.
Living in Lisbon, Estoril would be much better for me.

KA · 6 Dec 2010, 07:53 (Ref:2800229)

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Originally Posted by CTD

LMS, Le Mans, ALMS, ILMC...
Because if Oreca fields 5-6 cars
Norma 2-3 cars
Lola probably 3-4 Cars
Zytek 1-2 Cars
Pescarolo (chassis) 2-3 Cars?
Thats's a minimum on 13 cars!
That together with some LMP1's, and whole lot of Gt's, is going to be packed fields with someone left out...

...and that's not a bad problem to have......

Though if you factor in the inevitable team or two that either falls by the wayside over the season, or appears on the full-season entrylist at the beginning of the year but never actually appears, , then I'd expect it to be fairly manageable, and I'd be surprised to see anyone not getting a start because the entry is oversubscribed.

The probable absence of some or all of the ILMC-contending entries at the two LMS-only races might also be a factor, though I wouldn't be too surprised to see at least Audi and Peugeot turn out at the Paul Ricard season-opener on top of their ILMC schedule to get more pre-LM mileage...

sceptic · 7 Dec 2010, 15:33 (Ref:2800944)

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Originally Posted by ubrben

What was Hindy's rant about Portimao?

Ben

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Originally Posted by LeMans.pt

Everybody told to the LMS organization that racing in Algarve in the high season was a big mistake! They thought that it would attract a lot of English, French and German tourist who travel to Algarve to toast in the sun... that was even a bigger mistake.

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Originally Posted by AndrewF31

Even in the off-season, the track is a bit in the middle of nowhere, but it should be cheaper to go there then in July.

The track's location isn't an issue. The road leading to it is good.
The issues with running the race in June are:

- You aren't going to attract tourists to the race. They went to the Algarve to lie on the beach.
- You aren't going to attract locals. They are too busy servicing the tourists.
- The tourists have taken all the hire cars.
- The tourists have booked all the hotel rooms.
- It's too hot, and the circuit's electric supply is barely adequate enough to power the lights and timing system, let alone the air conditioning.

GT-Eins · 7 Dec 2010, 16:43 (Ref:2800983)

Looks like Farnbacher-Hankook is fix with the new Ferrari for the LMS:
http://www.gt-eins.at/cms/index.php?...=5852&Itemid=1

Jamesy-18 · 7 Dec 2010, 21:18 (Ref:2801091)

Talking of which, when ARE we going to see the GT2 458 Italia officially unveiled?

Fogelhund · 7 Dec 2010, 22:36 (Ref:2801115)

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Originally Posted by Jamesy-18

Talking of which, when ARE we going to see the GT2 458 Italia officially unveiled?

http://axisofoversteer.blogspot.com/...re.html?ref=nf

cmk · 7 Dec 2010, 23:24 (Ref:2801135)

My god. It's vicious. It looks like it's going to kill the competition and eat them, rending them limb from limb. The road car looked daft in my opinion, but this definitely does not.

**joeb** · 8 Dec 2010, 03:01 (Ref:2801187)

Is that snow in the background of the 458 shot?

WMUCarGuy · 8 Dec 2010, 06:28 (Ref:2801206)

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Originally Posted by joeb

Is that snow in the background of the 458 shot?

Looks like it

Jamesy-18 · 8 Dec 2010, 08:11 (Ref:2801227)

Wow. That thing does look mean. Porsche should be worried...

The Badger · 8 Dec 2010, 12:05 (Ref:2801352)

Im sure they are . When exactly will they have a new car to take this on .

Porsche are masters though and Im sure they will put on a decent show in 2011 ..... Frankly I would be surprised if they dont !!!

Nice looking car , that 458 . Cant wait to see it in Hancook livery .

cmk · 8 Dec 2010, 19:31 (Ref:2801621)

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Originally Posted by WMUCarGuy

Looks like it

Hard to find a place in Europe without it these days! DSC suggests it is Pierre Kaffer at the wheel, which I agree with judging by the helmet. I guess his Ferrari stock continues to increase.

Victor_RO · 10 Dec 2010, 15:34 (Ref:2802476)

According to Radio Le Mans' "Responsible Adult" (Eve), the Portuguese LMS round will be at Estoril.

Mal · 10 Dec 2010, 16:15 (Ref:2802490)

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Originally Posted by Victor_RO

According to Radio Le Mans' "Responsible Adult" (Eve), the Portuguese LMS round will be at Estoril.

DSC are confirming that now

Jonerz · 10 Dec 2010, 17:57 (Ref:2802540)

I prefered the 430 GT immensely. And I thought that the 458 road car was miles ahead of the 430 road car, and yet they've managed to crash and burn on the looks of the 458 GT it seems. It looks like a failed attempt at building a Group C car in 1983.

Chris

The Badger · 11 Dec 2010, 05:51 (Ref:2802829)

Audi Motorsport Events in 2011

Audi R15 TDI

Mar 19 Sebring 12 Hours (USA)

Audi R18

Apr 24 Test day, Le Mans (F)
May 08 Spa-Francorchamps (B) 6 Hours
Jun 11/12 Le Mans (F) 24 Hours
Jul 03 Imola (I) 6 Hours
Sep 11 Silverstone (GB) 6 Hours
Oct 01 Petit Le Mans, Road Atlanta (USA)
Nov 12 China (CN) 6 Hours

Audi A4 DTM

May 01 Hockenheim (D)
May 15 Zandvoort (NL)
Jun 05 Spielberg (A)
Jun 19 EuroSpeedway Lausitz (D)
Jul 03 Norisring (D)
Jul 17 Show event Munich (D)
Aug 07 Nürburgring (D)
Sep 04 Brands Hatch (GB)
Sep 18 Oschersleben (D)
Oct 02 Valencia (E)
Oct 23 Hockenheim (D)
Nov 06 Shanghai (CN)

Audi R8 LMS

Jun 25/26 Nürburgring (D) 24 Hours
Jul 30/31 Spa-Francorchamps (B) 24 Hours

Looks like Audi have commited to a full LMS season and not ILMC !!!

The Badger · 11 Dec 2010, 06:36 (Ref:2802837)

Please disregard above comment ..... just had a coffee and a 2nd look . Amazing what a coffee can do !!!

AndrewF31 · 12 Dec 2010, 17:46 (Ref:2803356)

Well, I'll be heading to Estoril in 9 months time.
With the Petit Le Mans race around the same time, LMS could be a bit skinny in Estoril but lets see what's gonna come when we get the entry lists.

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