Data Loggers

Werewolf · 16 Jan 2004, 22:07 (Ref:840966)

WANT TO DO SOME TESTING WHEN I GET CAR.THINK DATA LOGGER MAY HELP SEE WHERE I AM SLOW ETC.WHICH DO YOU RECOMMEND?

blue nose · 16 Jan 2004, 22:30 (Ref:840999)

How much do you want to spend?

GolddustMini · 17 Jan 2004, 01:30 (Ref:841128)

Pi are good

keep away from the cheap stuff, its generally just that "cheap"

any chance you could type in a coherent way next time as well, this is a computer and not a mobile phone

*points at capslock button on keyboard*

Chucky · 17 Jan 2004, 02:01 (Ref:841141)

EFI Technology Level 1 or 2. Go to www.efitechnology.com or ring Neil Brown Engineering in the UK.

If thats too pricey, you can always go for a basic Pi. They're usually good value for money.

Stay away from Motec (too pricey for features), MMarelli (too complex for something that's not very advanced) and Stack (outdated).

jonathanc · 17 Jan 2004, 15:12 (Ref:841598)

If you dont want to spend over 2k, then AIM do various solutions from a few hundred pounds all the way to thousands.

Take a look at www.aim-sportline.com
They do have a new range so try contacting you nearest distributor (on website)

johnw · 18 Jan 2004, 01:33 (Ref:842015)

I can highly recommend the DL90 or the new DL1 from
http://www.race-technology.com/WebPage/FlashIntro.html
Sensible price, multi features, easy to use.

Rubinho · 18 Jan 2004, 16:48 (Ref:842462)

Quote:

Originally posted by Chucky
If thats too pricey, you can always go for a basic Pi. They're usually good value for money.

Stay away...Stack (outdated). [/B]

In my experience (and opinion), for a beginner, the Stack DataPro software is streets ahead of Pi Club Expert Windows in the usability stakes.

I've not played with the others discussed yet.

Werewolf · 18 Jan 2004, 19:19 (Ref:842577)

are some loggers more suitable for single seaters as that is what i will be racing.am a novice so forgive ignorance.dont really want to spend more than £750 on logger.

dhart · 18 Jan 2004, 19:55 (Ref:842616)

I use Astratech microlog which is simple and reliable, try Jim at "know limits" he should have something s/hand within your price limit 07860 801057

Barry Pomfret · 18 Jan 2004, 20:29 (Ref:842643)

For £750 you should be able to buy a s/h Pi system 2 which will give you a dash and enough logging for the average club racer. I have used this system for seven years and never had any major problems. The pressure sensors can be a touch unreliable and the wheelspeed sensors don't like visiting gravel traps at high speed but overall it is a good, quality system with excellent back up from the company (which is owned by Ford) How many of the other companies mentioned have as large a market share as Pi, ask yourself why?

ActiveMS · 19 Jan 2004, 09:08 (Ref:843061)

Werewolf, it also comes down to how handy with wiring looms you are. Many systems are incredibly hard to setup and get accurate readings from. For £750 you could get a MyChron3 from AIM. Talk to DataSpares (UK Distributor) at www.dataspares.com.

Includes:
Wheel Speed
RPM & change up lights
Lap times including best
Full replay facility
Water Temp
Oil Temp
+ lots more & customisable inputs
It is around the 600 quid mark.

avsfan733 · 19 Jan 2004, 22:28 (Ref:843247)

THe Mychron 3 is a great piece of kti and I like their software...I am not all that up on the latest dataloggers because I currently run one that I built, I did spend about 1000US though which is comparable to what hes looking to spend...depends on how comfortable you are with electronics

datack · 21 Jan 2004, 13:01 (Ref:845384)

Have a think about what you want to get out of a system. Then if you know of people using systems ask them " can your software do this ..."

Remember after all the nice hardware it is the software that gives you the infomation. The software must be able to do what you want, not what the designers thought you might like.

Avoid gimmicks in the software - predicitive rubbish and potential best lap.

An earlier comment about cheap being cheap is out of date. Some companies have been having a party with this stuff for years. There is no need for a clubby racer to have to spend more that £1000, or pay £100 for a wheelspeed sensor, or £250 for half a days training.

JustinDawkins · 21 Jan 2004, 13:22 (Ref:845417)

Does anyone have any experience with the Faringdon Instruments logger? I have heard good things from the few people who I have met who use them, but they are not that common.

darcym · 21 Jan 2004, 14:13 (Ref:845459)

There was a comment on Stack systems being dated

I saw a cracking stack system, with both logging and steering wheel display. It had good set of logging information and the "part of the steering wheel" display was very impressive. It showed the best information, and in a good way. Its one of the best I've seen out there for £1600 including VAT (I think)

JustinDawkins · 22 Jan 2004, 12:21 (Ref:846719)

Quote:

Originally posted by JustinDawkins
Does anyone have any experience with the Faringdon Instruments logger? I have heard good things from the few people who I have met who use them, but they are not that common.

Come on someone! JM you sell them!

JohnMiller · 22 Jan 2004, 12:36 (Ref:846738)

If you're referring to me, I tried to sell you mine when I only had an FVL with a PI system.

Since then I've fitted it to my FF1600 and I love the system.

The guys are very, very helpful - the system is nicely sized - it uses Stack software etc. - it has a predictive lap-time feature.

It is not a fully featured logger but is good value for money although I think the price has gone up a bit in the last couple of years.

The build quality also feels very nice.

The transmitter also includes an 'IN' feature if your engineer wants you (I still ignore it though).

Overall I would classify it as a good step-up for someone running a Roll Centre type timer and who wants new equipment below a grand...

JohnMiller · 22 Jan 2004, 12:37 (Ref:846740)

Only annoyance is that it doesn't use the circuit beacon and therefore you have to remember to bring it in!

JustinDawkins · 22 Jan 2004, 12:45 (Ref:846748)

I was refering to Jason Minshaw actually, but forgot you had one. Does the predictive thing work?

Do you have the full set-up with g-sensor etc? Does it show wheelspeed?

darcym · 22 Jan 2004, 13:21 (Ref:846785)

Please show me the website for this wonderful bit of kit

JustinDawkins · 22 Jan 2004, 13:49 (Ref:846814)

Check out: www.farringdoninstruments.co.uk

Seems pretty weel priced.

JohnMiller · 22 Jan 2004, 13:54 (Ref:846823)

I have got the full set-up but have never actually got the predictive bit to function - although this is more down to me than them.

Speaking to them at the show, they said I am using the wrong type of wheel sensor and they will sell me another one for £40 and visit me at a track to help me set it all up, which seems very fair to me.

darcym · 22 Jan 2004, 14:41 (Ref:846870)

This was the stack kit I was talking about.

Looks like it gets some good data, and to have it displayed on the wheel looks really helpful.

darcym · 22 Jan 2004, 14:43 (Ref:846874)

just noted the new prices (they where a little cheaper when I last looked)

so £1700 ex VAT for a full steering wheel & Display + £320 ex VAT for the actual data logger.

Where do the sensors come in - I have not seen any prices for them

JohnMiller · 22 Jan 2004, 15:30 (Ref:846932)

G force is £145, RPM cost me about £100 from PI.
Why not use the cheaper RCA system at £595 plus vat?

I had an AIM Mychron system in a Zetec a few years ago and it was OK but really just a glorified timer/shift light/rev counter system. Mind you, it wasn't supported in the UK then.

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