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Old 9 Jul 2008, 08:24 (Ref:2247762)   #1
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tander penalty

was it a penalty for tander?he admited it was his fault.the move was done he just went out wide.
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Old 9 Jul 2008, 09:30 (Ref:2247809)   #2
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ues it was, he went out wide and took anotehr car out, you cant do that and so he was penalised
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Old 9 Jul 2008, 10:21 (Ref:2247840)   #3
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12 points? In 2007 money that's a less than 1 point penalty.

Pathetic...
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Old 9 Jul 2008, 10:22 (Ref:2247841)   #4
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was it a penalty for tander?he admited it was his fault.the move was done he just went out wide.

You ask a question then answer it yourself?
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Old 9 Jul 2008, 11:36 (Ref:2247881)   #5
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would whincup admit it?
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Old 9 Jul 2008, 11:38 (Ref:2247882)   #6
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give him 200 penalty u would agree with that
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Old 9 Jul 2008, 21:06 (Ref:2248238)   #7
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would whincup admit it?
Based on the way he answers questions put to him so far and the way he is hard on him self when he stuffs up you'd have to say yes.

In any event I doubt JW would have tried to do what GT did.
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Old 9 Jul 2008, 21:11 (Ref:2248242)   #8
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i'm sorry but 12 points is a usless pently....... He hasn't moved in the championship so how does that work? the pentlys need to be consistent and if they are going to do it make so they are penalised........ The officals are sometimes a joke
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Old 10 Jul 2008, 01:39 (Ref:2248360)   #9
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I agree 12 points is a joke!

Considering the incident resulted in Whincup finishing 8th instead of a probable 3rd they should have least penalised him the 26 point difference between those positions.

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Old 10 Jul 2008, 07:00 (Ref:2248429)   #10
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given i am a Holden man i'm over the moon but i hope next time it happens it is the same penalty for anyone blue or red as i do want consistancy
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Old 10 Jul 2008, 09:09 (Ref:2248507)   #11
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i think they penalised him the number of points Jamie lost in the incident. He was 4th and dropped back around 3 spots (he dropped more spots latter in the race)

Ther have been a number of points penalties this year
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Old 13 Jul 2008, 23:13 (Ref:2250363)   #12
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What incident are we talking about? I don't remember any where Jamie lost 5 positions
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Old 14 Jul 2008, 01:58 (Ref:2250392)   #13
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Race 3, lap1, turn1. Tander and Whincup where side by side but Tander went in too hot and ran wide and consequently drove Whincup off the track.
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Old 14 Jul 2008, 06:10 (Ref:2250439)   #14
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dirty, he admittied guilt didnt he??
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Old 14 Jul 2008, 08:18 (Ref:2250487)   #15
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Ohk, didn't see much in it (compared to other incidents)
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Old 15 Jul 2008, 14:09 (Ref:2251312)   #16
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if you say its not enough, im wondering why then davison didnt get penalised for bumping wincup in race 2 (i think it was) jamie ended up wide out on the grass and will didnt get anything.

hrrm, everybody has a thought, everybody has an opinion.
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Old 15 Jul 2008, 15:58 (Ref:2251387)   #17
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Because Davison got taged by Ingall.
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Old 15 Jul 2008, 20:53 (Ref:2251570)   #18
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As a flaggie we are always asked by race control about certain incidents and what we saw happened and certain incidents are deemed race incidents - but on the occasion of Tanders that wasn't a "race incident" as other cars had made turn one side by side without punting the other guy off the track.........
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Old 17 Jul 2008, 21:03 (Ref:2252938)   #19
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"Tander fears penalty may cost title

By Jim Morton
July 17, 2008 HOLDEN driver Garth Tander is seething about a controversial 12-point penalty which he fears could cost him back-to-back V8 Supercar titles.
Tander sits second on the drivers championship heading into this weekend's seventh round at Queensland Raceway, 70 points behind Ford's Mark Winterbottom.
But the defending champion staunchly believes he was unfairly docked the 12 points by stewards for careless driving when he came in contact with rival Jamie Whincup in the final race at Darwin's Hidden Valley in round six earlier this month.
After snaring his maiden championship last year by just two points over Whincup, Tander hopes the ruling won't come back to bite him at the end of the 14-round series.
“It certainly can (decide the championship), especially when you look at last year's championship and how close it was,” Tander said.
“We weren't happy with the penalty, we weren't happy with any penalty at all. We felt there wasn't any breach there.
“We won't know if it's going to change the championship until later in the year but we know how close the championship is.”
Tander indicated the blame lay as much with Whincup's bold challenge, which ultimately saw him fall back several spots, as the pair fought for third place.
“It was a restart and the field closed up and Jamie was trying to take an opportunity and we were both arguing about the same bit of road,” he said.
“There wasn't much in it. It was a fairly low percentage manouevre that late in the race, there was more to lose than there was to gain.”
Despite the Queensland Raceway being a Ford home base, Tander is seen as the man to beat at the City of Ipswich 400 after taking the round in 2006 and 2007.
The race and qualifying lap records are expected to be broken over the three-race weekend with the paperclip circuit this year re-surfaced with a high-grip coating.
Tander holds a nine-year-old race record of 1 minute 11.0033 seconds on the unpopular 3.14km track.
“We always seem to go quite well up here,” he said.
“I wouldn't say I enjoy the track but it seems to suit my driving style for some reason, and we always have strong results here. There is criticism of it but it always throws up great racing.”
Qualifying starts Friday with the first of the three races on Saturday afternoon.
AAP"

This was on Fox Sports today interesting take on it I suppose...
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Old 18 Jul 2008, 10:01 (Ref:2253210)   #20
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I'm curious as to why Tander did not have a drive through penalty added to his time.

In fact, I'm curious as to why Garth did not get a drive through during the race, given how early the incident occurred.

Garth should keep it shut - it could (and I'm sure some would say, should - given the eagerness of officials to throw them around in the recent past) have been much much worse for him.
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