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10 Jul 2008, 05:29 (Ref:2248386) | #1 | |
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TOYOTA entering v8's
everyone with all this ford budget stuff. i beleive now i sthe perfect time to launch a new manafatuer in to the v8supercars. i beleive Toyota is the best option and there has been rumors in auto action magazine that MERC's may race in the v8 supercars in the future. what is your opion on the topic?
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10 Jul 2008, 05:45 (Ref:2248390) | #2 | ||
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My opinion is this.
Cut back on your drinking until school holidays are finished and then listen to your teachers a lot more. Oh, be nice to your mum. |
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10 Jul 2008, 06:12 (Ref:2248398) | #3 | ||
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Some more advice....don't eat yellow snow and don't stand up in a canoe.
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10 Jul 2008, 06:12 (Ref:2248399) | #4 | ||
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Mercedes in our V8s, eh. That'll be the day!
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10 Jul 2008, 07:35 (Ref:2248464) | #6 | ||
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The Toyota entering V8 Supercars thing has been around for years now.. Dunno how true it ever was or is. If they did enter it would push up the development costs of GM and Ford I would have thought as Toyota would been pushing big money into that sort of project.
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10 Jul 2008, 07:39 (Ref:2248468) | #7 | ||
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Shorty, it aint gunna happen anytime soon. You may believe Toyota is the best option but Toyota dont.
Shorty, have you met our friend Pro? Youse both talk alike. |
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10 Jul 2008, 08:00 (Ref:2248476) | #8 | |
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shorty,your parents are right when they tell you if you play to much with your littlefella it will fall off!
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10 Jul 2008, 08:54 (Ref:2248496) | #9 | |
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shorty, my apologies that there are so many grumpy old men here. I find that many of them dont really have an opinion because alcohol and drugs have destroyed their brain matter or really they were never intelligent to begin with. (probably holden fans).
But anyway to paraphrase your question for the SOB's (silly old buggers) Shorty believes that now would be a good time to introduce a new manufacturer to the V8 series and he thinks Toyota would be a good choice. He would like other peoples opinions? Toyota will come on board in 2010, you can count on it. The talks have already started. Many people on here will be dissapointed by this, but it should have happened about 5 years ago. They will win the tirle in 2012, just in time for the new tv rights package. Triple 8 becoming manufactureless was just what Toyota needed to get a start. They will become the official works team (i dont know where Craig and Jamie will fit into this) |
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10 Jul 2008, 09:08 (Ref:2248506) | #10 | ||
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Peck, only time will tell if you're right....or maybe a press release from Toyota/888.
You can be sure than in 2010 someone will drag this thread back to the top And again in 2012. Perhaps it will be you. Would I be sad if Toyota joined? Nup. Not at all. Perhaps I am a silly bugger, but I tend to believe the messages coming from Toyota saying they're not interested. *MERC's* joining? I'd welcome them as well. Just cant see it happening. |
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10 Jul 2008, 09:14 (Ref:2248509) | #11 | |
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i cant see merc at all. Well the 2012 thing is just a guess (it could be 2011 ). but the 2010 thing well wait and see
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10 Jul 2008, 09:19 (Ref:2248516) | #12 | |
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Shorty, are you Pro's long lost little brother ?
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10 Jul 2008, 09:53 (Ref:2248532) | #13 | |
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all of you picking on shorty226 go back and watch the roland dane interview from saturday on the v8's on 7
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Roland did mention Volvo...
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10 Jul 2008, 23:09 (Ref:2248904) | #17 | ||
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Whether they would be pleased or not makes absolutely no difference. The issue is purely a commercial one. Does Toyota potentially see the opportunity tobroaden their market appeal to V8SC fans by becoming involved? They seem to have answered yes to a similar question in the USA by entering NASCAR but the size of the market probably determined that. It'd be REALLY hard to justify the multi millions it would cost for them to become competitive in V8SC when the size of the potential market is taken into account....
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10 Jul 2008, 23:22 (Ref:2248906) | #18 | |
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thanks people for your nice comments. NOT
naa but some teams have been in contact with Toyota frequently. TASMAN/Sprint gas racing have. Roland dane said they have been aswell. give it 5 years and toyota will be racing the front end of the V8 supercars seris |
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11 Jul 2008, 00:28 (Ref:2248925) | #20 | |
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true that. but if toyota use a 6 cylinder cars in supercars that brings up ford using the xr6 turbo and holden with all the talk they are making a torana overseas and putting a twin turbo 6 in it then that creates kind of a level playing field. but i would like to see all cars using the same engines just with NASCAR type shells so we could have a ford falcon, Holden commodore and a Toyota Aurion racing
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11 Jul 2008, 01:40 (Ref:2248943) | #21 | |
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I have heard the Merc rumour as well and it is something that comes with some credence. Think who the Silver arrow's #1 sponsor in the DTM is... Vodafone.... follow my lead ?? ;-)
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A McLaren designed Mercedes C Class... with technology borrowed from 888... paid for by "Making the Most of Now"
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11 Jul 2008, 02:50 (Ref:2248956) | #24 | |
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Well, it would align Vodafone's global Motor sport sponsorships uniquely with Mercedes. Not sure if Mercedes catchment is big enough in Australasia to warrant such an investment. Bahrain and even Singapore might just swing it though.... stranger things have happened GTR. On their recent Bathurst day, one of the drivers on hand was.... Jamie Whincup (if the rumours are true). Very big splash that little day on the mount. What else do they have planned. Hmmmm.
There can be no doubt that Triple 8 make an excellent platform for any manufacturer wishing to enter V8 racing. Now they are effectively on the market for a partner, this should ramp up the rumours of a 3rd maker entry at the least. Jamie Whincup is contracted to Ford until the end of 2008. He is contracted to Triple 8 until the end of 2009, leaving him free to stay with the team whichever way they choose to go. Lowndes on the other hand is a more complex issue. Either driver (more likely JW) is a real show of carrying the #1 plate into 2009, making them a very attractive propostion indeed. Toyota's (or whoevers) major barrier to entry was the lack of a suitable engineering partner. That barrier has just been removed. Without a Prodrive, 888 or WP as a partner, Toyota would have bourne all of the development costs themselves by having to set-up their own show. Now they don't have to because it is there on a platter, ready to go sitting at Bowen Hills. It is even dressed in nice Red (or silver). Weither V8, RWD Aurion fits in their marketing strategy remains to be seen.... Last edited by Wood-duck; 11 Jul 2008 at 02:52. |
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Toyota's (or whoevers) major barrier to entry was the lack of a suitable engineering partner. Weither V8, RWD Aurion fits in their marketing strategy remains to be seen....[/QUOTE] I'd suggest 99% the latter (marketing), the former (engineering), nil% |
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