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Old 4 Jun 2023, 19:22 (Ref:4159810)   #251
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Old 4 Jun 2023, 22:41 (Ref:4159890)   #252
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Wow wow wow. Great to see. Great to watch. Great on the timing screen.

Firstly how did it do agains the best GTEs (chosen the fastest lap and top speed GTEs)

Average Lap time
RankCarFastestTop 10Top 20Top 30Laps
124 Chevrolet3:53.7613:54.9693:56.0033:57.45258
266 Ferrari3:56.0883:57.0323:57.8593:59.18361
321 Ferrari3:56.7513:57.4573:58.0873:59.13151
Here are the lap times. It was quicker and consistently quicker despite getting used to the track. The comparison top lap times are compared too.

But what about the top speed.

Average Maximum Speed
RankCarTop SpeedTop 10Top 20Top 30
124 Chevrolet305.6303.7301.435299.65
221 Ferrari303300.08298.72297.68
366 Ferrari298.8298.24297.56296.8

The interesting thing here is that the top speeds drop off quicker than the GTEs. I think this is probably just a function of them building up the speed. I guess the top speed chart will show more consistency later in the week.

Button mentioned that the top speed wasn’t as fast as the GTEs. This was the case after the first session.

https://youtu.be/SA6HPBEtj-k

It also sounded like the main place they lose out is under brakes.

Whatever it isn’t just the top speed that got that lap time. It’s pretty good in every sector. Slightly worse in the final sector, but not the perceived stereotype those ignorant Europeans viewed the NASCAR

Those sector time comparisons.

#123ideal lapActual best
2436.54789.107107.705 3:53.3593:53.761
 RockenfellerRockenfeller Rockenfeller   
8636.99990.340107.8663:55.2053:56.286
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Better. Much better. About the same.

And how do the drivers compare? Not too many laps from them all.

Average Lap time
RankCarFastestTop 5Top 10Top 15Laps
1Mike ROCKENFELLER (Chevrolet 24)3:53.7613:54.4373:55.3193:56.72123
2Jenson BUTTON (Chevrolet 24)3:54.2433:56.3004:01.5854:48.13916
3Jimmie JOHNSON (Chevrolet 24)3:55.8933:57.5313:59.2044:01.30519
Button had a good lap, but didn’t get that many more flyers which probably hurt his chance to make this look more consistent. Rockenfeller looked like he was entrusted to get the car where it needed to be. Jimmie got some nice running in.

Note: sorry the colors of the G56 car isn’t consistent across the max speed and lap time charts.
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Seeing the car go through scrutineering in the background made me think - what are they checking? This car is not built to any rules!
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Having not seen any pitstop footage, is it too much to hope they do driver changes via the windows in the style of The Dukes of Hazzard? :-)
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"Whatever it isn’t just the top speed that got that lap time. It’s pretty good in every sector. Slightly worse in the final sector, but not the perceived stereotype those ignorant Europeans viewed the NASCAR"
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Having not seen any pitstop footage, is it too much to hope they do driver changes via the windows in the style of The Dukes of Hazzard?
In french this movie is called "Sherif, fais moi peur!" I think it has side windows, but if they use a typical Nascar race seat it wont be a piece of cake unless the three drivers are exactly the same size and have the same driving position (a la Audi for instance).
I think nobody cares about any restrictor to be used, tank capacity or fuel allowance. Let them have fun and make the show!
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Having not seen any pitstop footage, is it too much to hope they do driver changes via the windows in the style of The Dukes of Hazzard? :-)
Driver changes are through the window. The car has no doors.
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Driver changes are through the window. The car has no doors.
Thanks for this. Tricky then but good for the show.
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Old 5 Jun 2023, 09:23 (Ref:4159963)   #259
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It's good the ACO has allowed them to do things their way. You wouldn't think they would approve of the car having no doors, but there you go
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The stock cars entered in 1976 did not have doors either. As this year's effort is a return of Nascar to LeMans after so long, and a celebration of Nascar's 75th Anniversary and the LeMans 24's 100th anniversary, the Garage 56 entry is keeping true to Nascar.

It does have more aero. I wish we knew other specs. I believe the engine is running unrestricted and is likely the most powerful IC engine in the field.

Marshal Pruet is going to be embedded in the G56 pit for the race, reporting on their race, I'm not the biggest Nascar fan (but I was at the '76 D24 when some stocks cars were run leading to the LeMans effort that same year) and my jingoism is mostly in check, but this project has captivated and I really hope they have a good run and rattle the rafters for the full 24!
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Can't wait to see and hear this beast

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It does seem to be able to turn to the right...
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There is a link in this story with full side by side comparison of the G56 and Cup car specs.

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Weight - 1342kg (about 245kg less than Cup spec!)
Gearbox - 5 speed paddle shift (vs 5 speed sequential shift)
Wheels/tyres - slightly wider wheels and wider rear tyres for G56
Fuel cell - 127 litres (about 48 litres more than Cup)

https://motorsports.nbcsports.com/20...mans-next-gen/
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Here are the fuel tank sizes for GTE

MAXIMUM ONBOARD FUEL VOLUME (liter)
-- Bulletin ----- Track ---FERRARIASTON MARTINPORSCHECORVETTE
26/5/2023Le Mans889710296
  488 GTE EVOVANTAGE AMR911 RSR - 19C8.R

Based on very little I guess the G56 is thirstier. So similar stint?
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"Whatever it isn’t just the top speed that got that lap time. It’s pretty good in every sector. Slightly worse in the final sector, but not the perceived stereotype those ignorant Europeans viewed the NASCAR"
Yeah but its pretty highly modified from a standard Nascar cup car. Just look at the aero on the thing.
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Based on very little I guess the G56 is thirstier. So similar stint?
Biggest engine in the field, maybe most powerful engine in the field, aerodynamics of a brick with a Gurney flap, 1450kg with a full tank... Could be thirsty
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Based on very little I guess the G56 is thirstier. So similar stint?
With 36 more litres, may be one more lap than 'Vette, those beast are highly developed and the MPG is good given the rev limit. May be they will lose some time when changing the driver, passing through the window requires the skills of an acrobat. Anyway, I already love it!
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Biggest engine in the field, maybe most powerful engine in the field, aerodynamics of a brick with a Gurney flap, 1450kg with a full tank... Could be thirsty
Did you see the LMP2 searching for the drag in the straight? Impressive. Not sure but it seems they have antifog lights which could be useful during the night to fin the apex.
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This is a great interview with Jenson.
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Yeah but its pretty highly modified from a standard Nascar cup car. Just look at the aero on the thing.
Yes but some parts are not modified...... im looking forward to the pit stops and driver changes. No opening doors, just the usual driver's window access and exit. A bit out of Jenson's comfort zone I suspect.
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Well it's not like he was used to opening a door himself when racing, just tell him the car is on a slant
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There is a link in this story with full side by side comparison of the G56 and Cup car specs.

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Weight - 1342kg (about 245kg less than Cup spec!)
Gearbox - 5 speed paddle shift (vs 5 speed sequential shift)
Wheels/tyres - slightly wider wheels and wider rear tyres for G56
Fuel cell - 127 litres (about 48 litres more than Cup)

https://motorsports.nbcsports.com/20...mans-next-gen/
Thanks for this! Wow, did they strip weight out! They should nickname it "Twiggy."

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Very useful info. You wouldn't think they would be able to save that much weight, maybe a few kilos at best. Either way, it's been so far so good for team and car. I'm not expecting miracles, but if it can have a nice reliable run, it's a job well done.
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There is some explanation of the weight saving in this video

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There is some explanation of the weight saving in this video

https://youtu.be/i2DsWP8cA1g
Thanks, I had seen this the other day. This thing is a Moon Shot, with each gram measured and analyzed for ways to reduce it without compromising the mission. The depth of this is amazing.

I really, really hope this beast has a faultless, thundering run from green to checker.

Can it out-run GTE AMs for the 24? I think so.
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