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22 Jun 2006, 12:54 (Ref:1639088) | #1 | ||
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TV Ratings for the IRL 2006 Season
I posted a similar thread in the Champ Car forum as well, because I haven't looked at any TV ratings for any of the races thus far this year for either Series.
In the CC "Merger" thread, Mountainstar posted that the IRL may have to buy their ESPN time next year due to low ratings thus far this season for those events If any of you know the Ratings and Shares for each event, please post them. Also, please note whether the event was on ESPN, ESPN2, or ABC when you do it. Exposure is a key element of gaining sponsorhips and to grow the fanbase for the Series. Thanks! |
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Just found this in relation to the 2006 Indy 500
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23 Jun 2006, 13:50 (Ref:1639807) | #3 | ||
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I found a link that rated the ABC Watkins Glen telecast as a 0.8 rating and a 2 share.
Not great...IIRC, their network telecasts were over 1.0 most of the season after Danicamania began. The Source: http://tv.zap2it.com/tveditorial/tve_main/1,1002,272|||sports,00.html |
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Wow -- not good -- The IRL and CC have just got to get together, and losing ratings like this might be the driving force that finally seals the deal.
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St Petes 0.4 Motegi 0.3 (1) Indy 5.0 (2) Watkins Glen 0.8 Texas 0.6 Richmond 0.3 Kansas 1.2 Nashville Milwaukee Michigan Kentucky Sears Point Chicago (1) cribbed from another forum, where it was mentioned as an aside. I'm not sure if it's real or not. (2) apparently an OW internet digest (TSO) has said it was 5.4? Last edited by paul-collins; 1 Aug 2006 at 13:17. |
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The numbers you have quoted were taken from the IRL website, TSO. The reference,"we're hearing" was used to give these ratings. There is no proof that any of these ratings are credible.Given that these ratings are not to be found in any credible source,they cannot be believed. I think it is a shame that anyone connected with the IRL would try to pass erroneous ratings to the fans and have them repeated on these forums as truth without proof. I hope this isn't the way the IRL choses to represent itself. |
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I don't have access to TSO, and you're right, that's where the Motegi and higher Indy numbers come from. The point of this thread is to, hopefully, get someone to chime in with independently released numbers. For example, I know Joyce Julius builds their cases on the viewership - anyone out there have access to their IRL sheets? |
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Heard that one, too, Fogel. And the finals for Indy were 5.1 against Charlotte's 5.0 but Indy had a perceptibly larger share number, as I recall.
Cache, those numbers were published.....you (and I) just didn't go to the trouble of finding them out from someone. As I've pointed out before, if you have a friend at a TV station, just call 'em. They can find them out for you as all stations subscribe to Nielsen. Nobody's keeping them a secret, but Nielsen obviously keeps a small lock on their subscriber list. When entities get .1s, they don't brag. If they get better, they do. |
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The ratings are not OWNED or THE PROPERTY OF any series, CC, IRL, ALMS, NASCAR, any of them. They are the property of Nielsen (note spelling) and are sold to subscribers. If you have a few thousand laying around, subscribe. Otherwise, pick it up like the rest of us do. As I've posted many times, Sadie in Omaha, if she has a friend at a TV station can do it. Or a friend with an advertiser.
The IRL doesn't announce attendance figures. That's up to the promoters who bought the show. CC frequently puts attendance numbers in website stories but usually attributes them to the promoters or media estimates. The IRL nor CC nor NASCAR announce Nielsen ratings. If they get a good one, the papers pick it up which have subscription services to Nielsen for announcement purposes. If not, they generally don't say anything and folks like you and I hafta hunt for it. But it's not that we can't find 'em. As Tim suggested, zap2it is a good source site, but not for the little ones that don't "make the cut." |
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Well, you're the one saying that what everyone has posted is wrong. What's your source for why they're wrong?
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Cache, Mark C's site can't be considered a credible source, either. But zap2it and sports business daily are.
There ARE Nielsen numbers for Richmond, Texas and Motegi. There is NO mythical "cut." They're just harder to find. Some posters, as I said, can find 'em from credible sources, others, I guess, can't. If you're one who can't, sorry 'bout that. |
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Okay, enough of this, guys. I'll mark the entries that apparently came from TSO as such. If confirmed independently the mark comes off; if disputed, noted. This is not a thread for debating the merits of particular "news" sites.
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Cool, p-c. And if Cache or anyone else wants or needs that info for EITHER CC or IRL races and doesn't believe what someone posts, as I said, it's easy enough to call someone with your local TV station or even probably the TV editor of the local paper or the advertising people or agencies for the sponsors of the telecast or the myriad of people at the networks themselves or people with companies who have been approached about BEING sponsors, or the marketing guys for the teams who get the information and use it in sponsor proposals (or choose not to, also), or...............
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I have heard that the Kansas Race on ABC on July 2 pulled a 1.2 Rating and a 3 Share.
Not bad, but could still do some growing. |
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That's what I got through MY TV station source, Tim. You won't see it at Mark C.'s, though....too good.
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The Indy Star is a credible source, luke....
Anyone who thinks the Star is some sort of mouthpiece for the IRL is way off-base....both Curt Cavin and Steve Ballard are fair, balanced, and objective in their coverage. |
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From Indy star: 'Champ Car & IRL close to merging!' and based on absolutely nothing!
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can someone tell a dumbhead like me what these numbers mean..? Are they millions?
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