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I also believe some of the sector times were lost during the power outage. Look at the ideal lap (sum of best sector times) of the #7 Audi: 2:01.495. Almost .7 sec slower than the actual best lap time of car: 2:00.833. |
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anyway, this is how we saw most of the weekend
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/event...a-1000-km.html |
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Regarding the team effort, the number 3 and 1 spent less time in the pits than the two Audis so the race was not only won on the track. (page 127). |
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Let's just call it for what it is: Spa is inconclusive as to who's faster, esepcially at Le Mans. Audi ran a LM-spec downforce package that cost them in sector 2(which comprises at least half of the lap), but were at times significantly faster in sectors 1/3. That and having better racecraft kept the #7 in contention until the last few minutes. However, that low downforce package cost them as far as keeping warm slicks on the cars like the HD 908s could.
Peugeot came with a high downforce setting with the aim to win, knowing that the HD package would benefit them. And Audi does have a high downforce package for the new R15 at least partially in existance, and strangely they used it in practice for Paul Ricard: http://www.fourtitude.com/gallery/ga...&dispsize=1024 http://www.fourtitude.com/gallery/ga...&dispsize=1024 http://www.fourtitude.com/gallery/ga...&dispsize=1024 Why they didn't run their cars in at least that configuration is beyond me. However, the more I think about it, it could be typical Audi. Words and phrases such as "sandbagging", "holding their cards to their chest", and "mind games" come to mind. Maybe Audi just wanted to show Peugeot that in low downforce trim that they believe that the R15 is the equal of the 908's LD trim. As far as handling goes, in LD trim, the R15 at Paul Ricard seemed to have the edge over the Oreca 908, as set up with factory assistance(it also seems that Peugeot is taking Oreca more seriously than Pescarolo last year), as the speed gap on the mistral wasn't as big as it often was at Spa, where the Audi and Pug ran different areo setups. However, with the cars in different specs and seeminlgy different game plans, it's hard to say, in Audi's words, "where they stand" as far as Audi and Peugeot go, and without the LM test day, we'll probably be in the dark for the next five weeks. One thing though that hasn't been talked about in this thread so far is the ugly part of things for Peugeot: Oreca's disasterous race. It has no real impact on the LM side of things. But one also has to remember that Oreca is Peugeot's back-door factory effort for the LMS championship, with Allan and Dindo winning Paul Ricard and finishing 3rd at Spa, they have the lead in the drivers' championship, and with Peugeot Sport not submitting an full season entry, Audi and Joest have the lead in the manufacturers' and teams' championships. With Oreca's DNF at Spa and making it no where near 70%, they scored no points in any championship. This leaves the LMS title hunt wide open, unless Audi enter Allan and Dindo in more LMS races. Audi already have at least 3 planned(Paul Ricard, Spa, and Silverstone--the LMIC opener). With their big lead in the championship and Joest registered as a full season entry, Audi have basically a one race advantage over Oreca in the championship tables. Does one think that Audi may take advantage and enter Algarve and/or Hungaroring under the pretense of "testing for the LMIC" while using it as a back-door attempt at stealing the LMS title? Last edited by chernaudi; 10 May 2010 at 20:11. |
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I'll be very curious to see how fast the pugs will be with the LM package. They really found something this year, as the Pug's pole time was four seconds quicker than last year, even with the increased restrictions. |
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the number 7 stop was a (wrong) team decision and even if you subtract two minutes for the number 9, it has still used more time than the first two Pugs...
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The parts in the photos(dive planes and tail gurneys) are tack-on parts that mostly carried over from the '09 R15.
And it seemed that Audi modifed their cars for Spa in a strange way in additon to the low downforce they ran-it seems that the inner head light(the one that points outboard of the car) has some kind of divider piece mounted in front of it-different light or what's going on there? |
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Checking my pictures, I can only see fully flush headlights, with no divider pieces. |
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The inboard light(the one that points towards the outside of the car) seems to be split and has a carbon divider mounted between the two parts of it, and it's in the bin under the lexan cover, not on the cover itself.
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As a former Student Apprentice with Aston in the DB days I was very sorry to see them have problems again. Fast but fragile perhaps but the GT2 failures at P Ricard and Spa were different and should be solveable. That car's fastest lap was quicker than all GT2s except the BMW that was penalised for not respecting the circuit boundaries, 4 tenths quicker than the fastest Porsche and all the Ferraris and some of the GT1s so the speed is there if they can find the reliabilty
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I was watching the race-rally stream and it worked flawlessly through the race, apart from the power cut. I remember doing the same thing as far back as 08. Why is it that the ACO can't do this themselves, with RLM commentary, if these guys can do it for free without any problems? |
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stream worked ok .. but quality was a bit low(not a big fan of silverlight) .. at least compared to the GT1 stream
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The problem with the free streaming was that the RLM commentary was often ahead of the pictures, several times I would hear about an incident and then see it several minutes later.
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Stream was absolutely fine for me, more than adequate for a freebie, I echo the sentiment that it would be fantastic if we had the same for each race. |
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