Triple 8 Splitter Eligibility - Still Going.. (Merged x2)

bluesport · 3 May 2009, 08:41 (Ref:2454430)

Ch 7 news reported that Lowndes win may be in jeopardy as questions are raised over legality of T8 splitters.......anyone have knowledge of this?

Pro Racer · 3 May 2009, 08:44 (Ref:2454434)

yeah fox sports story here.

bit of an odd one especially "IF" Roland ain't telling porkies and they have used it for 4 years. will wait for more info and clarification before i comment too much. judging by both days speed either way it does SFA to their speed.

peckstar · 3 May 2009, 08:45 (Ref:2454435)

a story

edit beat me to it

bluesport · 3 May 2009, 09:19 (Ref:2454454)

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Originally Posted by Pro Racer

yeah fox sports story here.

bit of an odd one especially "IF" Roland ain't telling porkies and they have used it for 4 years. will wait for more info and clarification before i comment too much. judging by both days speed either way it does SFA to their speed.

The article says that it's "more flexible" so it sounds as if it may be less likely to break if there's an off track excursion.

retro · 3 May 2009, 09:20 (Ref:2454456)

click here

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A furious TeamVodafone Principal, Roland Dane, has told teams to butt out of his business and concentrate on their own.

He was responding to implications from rival teams that his Triple Eight cars had alleged illegal parts fitted to the front splitter.

The part replaces the bolts used to mount the splitter to the chassis of the car and all Triple Eight Falcons, including TeamVodafone’s has them fitted.

BigPond Sport understands that the part is currently legal and Dane is adamant that it is.

“Our splitter is exactly the same as all the other Fords. It’s the mounting system that allows it if it hits a kerb like turn one at Adelaide the wrong way so it doesn’t smash into smithereens,” Dane explained.

“I would have called that clever, but maybe for some people they need to try to justify why they’re not winning; good luck to them.

“So there’s no stewards inquiry, there’s no protest, it’s a matter of V8 Supercars now just making an interpretation of whether what we’ve been using for four years we can still use or not and I’m happy with that.”

Dane said the splitters for both the TeamVodafone cars were fitted with bolts for today’s sessions at Winton.

Using the bolt system instead of the other mount, driver Jamie Whincup put his car on pole while teammate Craig Lowndes was third, and went on to win the race.

Pro Racer · 3 May 2009, 09:33 (Ref:2454459)

no big issue then just VESA to decide if they can either run it or not, it dosn't make the car faster.

petebendon · 3 May 2009, 09:38 (Ref:2454463)

so lets get this straight -- roland says the mounts let the splitter to move up and down......blah blah......so the splitter is moving up and down? the aerodynamic splitter?? dont all aero devices have to be FIXED??????????

if its interpereted to be illegal and they used it for 4 year then maybe potato head murph won bathurst number 5???!!!!!!

peckstar · 3 May 2009, 09:43 (Ref:2454465)

Little said there was no question about any retrospective results from any Triple Eight car, whatsoever.

NewsStalker · 3 May 2009, 09:58 (Ref:2454471)

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Originally Posted by petebendon

so lets get this straight -- roland says the mounts let the splitter to move up and down......blah blah......so the splitter is moving up and down? the aerodynamic splitter?? dont all aero devices have to be FIXED??????????

You must have better eyes than the rest of us - in neither of the links did he state this or anything like it.

Dane stated:

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It’s the mounting system that allows it if it hits a kerb like turn one at Adelaide the wrong way so it doesn’t smash into smithereens

He did, however, make this rather poignant remark:

[quote]I’ll sell it to them. They haven’t invented it themselves. If they’re thick enough not to do it I can’t help it.[quote]

TSR · 3 May 2009, 10:12 (Ref:2454473)

Just a sore loosing Holden team crying cause they can not win a race. A story about nothing.

Senna05 · 3 May 2009, 10:24 (Ref:2454481)

Who said it was a Holden team? FPR have taken some umbrage to 888 in the past.... It could be them?

This is just like the double diffuser (somewhat) - Tell us if it's legal or not, and move on. Forget the past, focus on the now.

However, parking competitors into their pit box..... hmmmm

petebendon · 3 May 2009, 10:29 (Ref:2454487)

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Originally Posted by NewsStalker

You must have better eyes than the rest of us - in neither of the links did he state this or anything like it.

not in those words stalker...........but he said the mounts wouldnt let the splitter smash..............why?? because it MOVES if they hit the kerb the wrong way????? is that in the spirit of the rules?????? if the splitters areo and it moves is that legal ?????? better get the legal books out everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TSR · 3 May 2009, 10:43 (Ref:2454496)

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Originally Posted by Senna05

Who said it was a Holden team? FPR have taken some umbrage to 888 in the past.... It could be them?

This is just like the double diffuser (somewhat) - Tell us if it's legal or not, and move on. Forget the past, focus on the now.

However, parking competitors into their pit box..... hmmmm

It was Tasmen who complained, going by the v8 web site.Typical of Greech.

**GTRMagic** · 3 May 2009, 10:50 (Ref:2454498)

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Originally Posted by TSR

It was Tasmen who complained, going by the v8 web site.Typical of Greech.

Here

bluesport · 3 May 2009, 10:51 (Ref:2454501)

Obviously no speed advantage to T8......sounds like a great idea, the other teams should adopt it.

garbo6 · 3 May 2009, 11:00 (Ref:2454504)

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Originally Posted by Senna05

Who said it was a Holden team? FPR have taken some umbrage to 888 in the past.... It could be them?

This is just like the double diffuser (somewhat) - Tell us if it's legal or not, and move on. Forget the past, focus on the now.

However, parking competitors into their pit box..... hmmmm

Dane named Tasman as the team in the V8 Site article.
http://www.v8supercars.com.au/conten...t_controversy/

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“Last night V8 Supercars said they’d had a complaint from a team, which is Tasman (Sprint Gas Racing), to say that they were concerned about the mounting system for our front splitter,” he said.

V8 Fireworks · 3 May 2009, 11:18 (Ref:2454509)

At the moment have any teams apart from SCAR and DJR (?) decided to bother with the NASCAR windtunnel facilties, to determine the optimal tape configurations etc?

I suppose if they get too enthusiastic with their 'aero', TEGA could supply them with all splitters, mounts and bolts (!) etc etc from one contractor to stop the teams from wasting effort in an area that provides negligible performance gains.

Senna05 · 3 May 2009, 12:14 (Ref:2454539)

This doesnt surprise me now... Grech was the man who in 1999 claimed that ALL AU teams were sandbagging to slow HRT down....

That said, I guess it would depend on how it's mounted. If the mounts have some flex, it could provide a situation whereby under high downforce the spliiter is lower to the ground.

As I said, say it's right or wrong, move on...

**GTRMagic** · 3 May 2009, 13:02 (Ref:2454558)

From Yahoo...

In the VESA website article, Mr Dane doesnt seem too happy does he?

I wonder if the other 888-supplied cars also received new mounting systems?

Tasman obviously went well with Mr Skaife's demon tweaks.. even the commentary team took the piddle out of him...

petebendon · 3 May 2009, 20:39 (Ref:2454765)

everyone can get carried away--i was upset some said there could be doing illegall things. me i want to see another {holden} team win but if its legall -- good on them! watch everyone else do it now

bluesport · 3 May 2009, 21:29 (Ref:2454780)

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Originally Posted by petebendon

everyone can get carried away--i was upset some said there could be doing illegall things. me i want to see another {holden} team win but if its legall -- good on them! watch everyone else do it now

Well, if other teams didn't know about it, they do now and it is up to them to implement or not.

Falcadore · 3 May 2009, 22:35 (Ref:2454802)

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Originally Posted by garbo6

Dane named Tasman as the team in the V8 Site article.
http://www.v8supercars.com.au/conten...t_controversy/

Tasman are having about as miserable a start to the season as a team can have of course, and only on Sunday moved past Jason Bright's single car team in the team points, and Brighty had to DNF for that to happen.

Maybe they are under pressure to justify their poor form.

Axeman444 · 3 May 2009, 22:51 (Ref:2454810)

maybe Grech is just a whinging idiot, always has been, along with his star driver

Chatters · 3 May 2009, 23:11 (Ref:2454820)

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Originally Posted by Axeman444

maybe Grech is just a whinging idiot, always has been, along with his star driver

Ah, the delights of well thought out and logical argument...

If T8 have this part, and if it is legal, let them run it! Someone likened it to the 'double diffuser'- Spot on. Someone's seen a loophole and has exploited its advantages. The fact that it was T8 means nothing. It could just as easily have been Sprint Gas Racing that thought up the idea, and would Roland Dane be crying foul?

More then likely...

... Just another day in V8 Supercar land...

**GTRMagic** · 3 May 2009, 23:21 (Ref:2454824)

888 offered to sell the part to whoever wants it. If the part is so good, buy one and see if it works the way you think it does....

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