Understanding the Sport of overtaking

Dan Fielden · 22 Jun 2004, 20:34 (Ref:1012554)

http://www.formula1.com/insight/tech...fo/11/838.html

Extract from www.formula1.com

EDIT: removed article.
Dan, If you want me to post anything as a intro to this I will. Just let me know.

Kicking-back · 22 Jun 2004, 20:41 (Ref:1012561)

More than an extract - looks like the whole article!

Dan Fielden · 22 Jun 2004, 20:53 (Ref:1012576)

Sorry it was the whole thing i just found it interesting.

Sorry Kicking Back

Kicking-back · 22 Jun 2004, 20:59 (Ref:1012589)

It doesn't offend me! I just didn't want you to fall foul of any rules.

It's an interesting article, but I don't think it really SAYS anything.

**Adam43** · 22 Jun 2004, 20:59 (Ref:1012591)

You can't really paste an entire article (copyright and all that). see FAQ. Would you like to pick up some relevant bits and post a link sraight to the article.

BootsOntheSide · 22 Jun 2004, 21:00 (Ref:1012593)

I thought that was an article - it was writen in proper literate sentances and with a logical structure, which not all tenthers are capable of.

Good stuff, and it raises some interesting points. It backs up the theory that aerodynamic grip is damaging for overtaking on circuits without long straights followed by tight corners, but can oherwise be advantageous.

**Adam43** · 22 Jun 2004, 21:03 (Ref:1012595)

Interesting read though!

**Adam43** · 22 Jun 2004, 21:12 (Ref:1012608)

I've asked Dan to post this again, but with less copyright issues.

Cheers

Dan Fielden · 22 Jun 2004, 22:08 (Ref:1012674)

Eye sorry boys i didn't thibk of the copyright issues n'all
i won't do that again sorry adam won't happen again. But it
was good in the snce that it explains the slipsteam and all that malarky

ljakse · 23 Jun 2004, 05:49 (Ref:1012877)

I've read this quite long ago - when F1.com became official FIA's F1 site, and my favorite part:

Quote:

Providing that the driver ahead only changes his line once going into a corner (not deliberately attempting to block the car behind) this is a perfectly justifiable form of racing, and with it a driver in an inferior car can successfully hold off a faster rival.

Hungary 89 · 23 Jun 2004, 12:06 (Ref:1013247)

Yes an interesting read but nothing a long term F1 fan wouldn't already know.

It does call into question the fact that if this is the FIA official stance why certain manouvers haven't resulted in a stewards enquiry

Glen · 23 Jun 2004, 14:07 (Ref:1013394)

No it doesn't really. Those are not the words of the regulations, they are the words of the web site's explanation of the regulations. To make matters worse the bold has been added to stress the part that the poster finds relevant, whereas no such stress exists in the rules themselves.

What the sentence quoted means, I think, is that moving across once is fine, and that moving more than once would be considered "deliberately attempting to block the car behind".

The article explains in a very even-handed way the conundrum... that high aero levels 1) give overtaking (in the sense of making the slipstream) and 2) take overtaking away (by making it harder to follow the car in front through a corner). Simply reducing wing levels would make the slipstream less strong and therefore mitigate against overtaking on the straights, irrespective of the amount of mechanical grip which might be reinstated as recompense to loss of aero downforce.

Knowlesy · 23 Jun 2004, 17:05 (Ref:1013605)

But I thought overtaking was done in the pits?

That page is obviously devoted to Taku!