What is Aston Martin up to? - Page 61

JAG · 1 Aug 2009, 17:42 (Ref:2513310)

If AMR have a new chassis, not just a revised Lola, they must also have plans for a new engine. AMR aren't going to build a new chassis for a single season.

The Real DMN · 1 Aug 2009, 17:47 (Ref:2513314)

Can they run a 2011 engine next year? I can't remember.

If so it would be a good idea to start development now and get a good years head start on it.

AndrewF31 · 12 Aug 2009, 20:54 (Ref:2520451)

3 Aston Martins will be going to Nurburgring next week to face the lone Pescarolo with Oreca absent.

Tim the Grey · 13 Aug 2009, 00:07 (Ref:2520536)

AMR need to work on their racing if they are to win, judging by the last round!

cdsvg · 13 Aug 2009, 07:58 (Ref:2520653)

Yes, interesting that it seems 2 factory entries are not enough to beat the lone Pescarolo...

AndrewF31 · 13 Aug 2009, 17:23 (Ref:2520913)

Not sure if it's just more numbers, easier to beat Pescarolo. The Planet Le Mans article mentions something interesting which is the 3rd car being able to push the Pescarolo down to at least 4th if everything goes well, thus helping Aston Martin's LMS title hopes.

KA · 14 Aug 2009, 12:14 (Ref:2521320)

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndrewF31

Not sure if it's just more numbers, easier to beat Pescarolo. The Planet Le Mans article mentions something interesting which is the 3rd car being able to push the Pescarolo down to at least 4th if everything goes well, thus helping Aston Martin's LMS title hopes.

Precisely- if you're fielding a 3rd car, it's not just about increasing your chances of beating your rival, but increasing the number of points you can take away from them by beating them

AX lover · 16 Sep 2009, 17:31 (Ref:2542209)

AMR Racing #008 (B0860 HU 02) is for sale (a cool 1.2 million euros)
http://www.racingcars24.com/index.ph...&adtitle=10926

HORNDAWG · 16 Sep 2009, 17:38 (Ref:2542218)

Maybe they will exit on a high note, LMS Champion. Retire/sell all the P-1s and bring the Vantage GT-2 program in house to produce sellable (profit) GT cars again.

L.P.

AX lover · 16 Sep 2009, 18:47 (Ref:2542283)

Quote:

Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

Maybe they will exit on a high note, LMS Champion. Retire/sell all the P-1s and bring the Vantage GT-2 program in house to produce sellable (profit) GT cars again.

L.P.

Charouz is selling the car, I don't know what AMR will do next year.
But wouldn't it be a good idea to produce a GT2 version of the V12 Vantage

They already used the V12 Vantage at the 24H Nurburgring race this year.

The V12 engine proved itself in GT1 & LMP1 and we all know that the weak point of the V8 Vantage GT2 is it's engine. So using the V12 would be a good idea!

carsten66 · 16 Sep 2009, 19:42 (Ref:2542331)

Quote:

Originally Posted by AX lover

AMR Racing #008 (B0860 HU 02) is for sale (a cool 1.2 million euros)
http://www.racingcars24.com/index.ph...&adtitle=10926

... at least with 1.2 million euros in the pockets going shopping you have the choice to buy a second hand LMP1 AM or a brand new LMP2 Porsche RS Spyder.

carsten66 · 16 Sep 2009, 19:50 (Ref:2542344)

Quote:

Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

Maybe they will exit on a high note, LMS Champion. Retire/sell all the P-1s and bring the Vantage GT-2 program in house to produce sellable (profit) GT cars again.

L.P.

... or maybe Charouz is aiming to win 24H of Le Mans too so he needs to buy a new all over winning car for next year... like an Audi or Peugeot.

HORNDAWG · 16 Sep 2009, 19:55 (Ref:2542354)

Hmm, http://tentenths.com/forum/showpost....1&postcount=24

L.P.

carsten66 · 16 Sep 2009, 20:32 (Ref:2542381)

more hmm... or a returning to WRC? It seems he isn't knowing his own mind... that's absolutely confusing:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/moto...ly/8255586.stm

pederb · 16 Sep 2009, 21:14 (Ref:2542410)

Quote:

Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

Maybe they will exit on a high note, LMS Champion. Retire/sell all the P-1s and bring the Vantage GT-2 program in house to produce sellable (profit) GT cars again.

L.P.

That would make to much sense

AndrewF31 · 17 Sep 2009, 12:45 (Ref:2542786)

Wouldn't mind seeing Round 2 of the Vette-AM battle with the added twist of having Ferraris, Porsches, BMWs and the lone ranger Spyker in the middle.

A Gulf Aston Martin Vantage?

JayBMS · 17 Sep 2009, 15:12 (Ref:2542850)

It is just the 2008 car that's being sold, have to see what. Happens to the 2009 cars. Would be great to see more effort go into the vantage

Graham Goodwin · 17 Sep 2009, 16:22 (Ref:2542892)

Toni Charouz almost always offers his cars for sale - It doesn't necessarily mean that he expects to sell them!

JayBMS · 17 Sep 2009, 16:47 (Ref:2542908)

working on 2011 car

http://www.amr-teams.co.uk/2009/09/a...-2011-car.html

**joeb** · 17 Sep 2009, 16:54 (Ref:2542912)

Quote:

Originally Posted by JayBMS

working on 2011 car

http://www.amr-teams.co.uk/2009/09/a...-2011-car.html

So did that article say they would race the current cars next year? It said they want to sell them and have privateers run them, but would they run them if they had no buyers?

It will be interesting to see what they come up with for a design on the 2011 car.

JayBMS · 17 Sep 2009, 16:55 (Ref:2542914)

who knows i would miss them next year. but maybe the need to push the vantage program thats where they could make money instead of spend it

Nordic · 17 Sep 2009, 16:56 (Ref:2542915)

Quote:

Originally Posted by carsten66

more hmm... or a returning to WRC? It seems he isn't knowing his own mind... that's absolutely confusing:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/moto...ly/8255586.stm

Prodrive is a buisness and either expands or fails.

A large part of its revenue came from the SRT team and it needs to fill that hole. LMP and GT2 cars will help, but Richards is never one to put all his eggs into one basket.

I doubt its ever 'either' 'or' with prodrive more yes if you can afford it.

HORNDAWG · 17 Sep 2009, 17:40 (Ref:2542932)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nordic

Prodrive is a buisness and either expands or fails.

A large part of its revenue came from the SRT team and it needs to fill that hole. LMP and GT2 cars will help, but Richards is never one to put all his eggs into one basket.

I doubt its ever 'either' 'or' with prodrive more yes if you can afford it.

I believe that it is an apples and oranges comparison though. The Rally effort is as a contractor to the mfg., (in the past Subaru) where Prodrive is paid for their services. The AMR relationship, is as a partner with Aston. Which are quite different scenarios from one another.

L.P.

zac510 · 17 Sep 2009, 18:10 (Ref:2542950)

Quote:

Originally Posted by JayBMS

working on 2011 car

http://www.amr-teams.co.uk/2009/09/a...-2011-car.html

If that's true then they must be quite happy with the cost:return ratio that sportscars is offering them, now that they've had a couple of years to test the waters. Hopefully this builds into a long term deal.

HORNDAWG · 17 Sep 2009, 18:51 (Ref:2542971)

Hmm, well from the sound of that it would seem they plan on building a 3.4L V-8. As of now there does not seem to be any allowance in P-1 for a GT homologated engine, only race engines, Diesel 3.7L (8 cyl.), N/A Petrol 3.4L (8 cyl.) and Turbo Petrol @ 2.0L (up to 6 cyl.)

L.P.

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