LM24 Le Mans 2009 - Official Entry List - Page 27

rich07 · 22 Jun 2009, 02:28 (Ref:2487996)

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Originally Posted by The Badger

I found out at Le Mans that Hexis had entered a DBR9 in GT1 , but were refused an entry .

And , the Lambo , was the same chassis that was crashed at Le mans in 2007 , with a road car arse end grafted onto it for 2009 . The team (T2M) were led to believe that they were supposed to be running the latest spec chassis and the ACO were led to believe the same thing too . The team said that when they finally got their hands on the car not one single nut & bolt was tight !!!

That shower of XXXXXXX ..... they should be banned for all their bull !!!

They got in because of promotion for the new Asian LM series was the story .

That is absolutely pathetic. I read somewhere else that the car was entered only to increase the car's value back in Japan and the team was smiling when the car was brought in after only one lap on Saturday afternoon. And during the night practice/qualfiying sessions they taped torches onto the side of the car to light up the car number to meet regs. There is a photo out there that shows it.

I cant see them doing well in the Asia LM series with that attitude. The cars half a roadcar, why would anyone in their right mind want to buy this car? If you want a Murcielago with pedigree buy one from Reiter.

Disgraceful. Larbre or Hexis should've got that entry.

The Badger · 22 Jun 2009, 07:05 (Ref:2488055)

Larbe got pretty well publicaly slapped in the face .

I was told that their place on the reserve entry list was because of promises made with respect to their 2008 LMS campaign . First they withdrew their entry and then said that they would return later in the year , but didnt .

Just a bit of ACO politics I suppose !!!

Joe Taylor · 22 Jun 2009, 23:31 (Ref:2488646)

I was particularly disappointed with the JLOC (lack of) effort. When the entry list was released, I was happy to see 2 Lambos on it. In the end, one withdrew and the other would have probably done better if it hadn't turned up.

There seems to be a developing annual tradition of a good team being let down by an appalling car. First Racing Box with the Lucchini last year, now T2M this year.

Pilgrimage · 24 Jun 2009, 10:44 (Ref:2489657)

And I guess this is where we miss the pre-qualifying/ test weekend...

MJ_N_09 · 30 Jun 2009, 09:54 (Ref:2493812)

Well....I did make a thread discussing my disgust with JLOC. These "car salesmen", that's what they were, not racers, kept a legendary team out of the event.

Shame on ACO for accepting their entry.

courageous · 30 Jun 2009, 15:15 (Ref:2493960)

i have to agree with lam pak re the 'asian' porsche - they could have at least put some japenese drivers in the car.

JLOC join the shambolic league with lucchini, spinaeker & the zakspeed porsche gt1-98.

At least crapboxes from the likes of welter, debora etc... Had some passion behind them.

Fab · 30 Jun 2009, 16:26 (Ref:2493995)

JLOC disgrace -

Just trying to remember without my notes : did the team do better in 2007 with the same car ?

When you listen RLM report after the JLOC retirement, you hear Paul Thruswell saying "shock horror" about it... the opinion of many I think...

Fab · 30 Jun 2009, 16:46 (Ref:2493999)

JLOC 2007 : Yamanishi at the wheel acomplished only one lap, and the car retired with a transmission failure... 2009 : bis repetita placent...

Endurance race anyone ? O tempora O mores !

The Badger · 30 Jun 2009, 17:44 (Ref:2494031)

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Originally Posted by courageous

i have to agree with lam pak re the 'asian' porsche - they could have at least put some japenese drivers in the car.

JLOC join the shambolic league with lucchini, spinaeker & the zakspeed porsche gt1-98.

At least crapboxes from the likes of welter, debora etc... Had some passion behind them.

Zakspeed was a tyre issue , not a chassis or engine problem and support for a 3rd and 4th car for the race was minimal .

Why japanese drivers ? Might as well have been who they were !!!

nobster · 30 Jun 2009, 18:20 (Ref:2494058)

Just don't understand why a racer like Marco Apicella wants to drive for them. This surely can't do his future any good, though I hope I'm wrong on this.

Marcel ten Caat · 30 Jun 2009, 19:19 (Ref:2494084)

Future? He is 43...

isynge · 30 Jun 2009, 22:09 (Ref:2494159)

I'd bizarrely got it into my head that the JLOC had managed more than one lap in 2007 - but I'll cheerfully bow to the documentary evidence to the contrary. I joked at the start that when the Lambo went past it was worth noticing as we probably wouldn't see it again - the kudos I got for my prescience was the sort I'd rather not have had.

I've long defended diversity and applauded those that have a go with passion, but JLOC isn't there. They kept plenty of worthy entrants out - WR in particular - and diversity is only good if it puts on a show. Parked after one lap doesn't do it for me. Sticking to the Japanese vein, there's a world of difference between this lot and Tokai University, who told a good story, seemed full of enthusiasm last year, and kept having a bash.

Marco Apicella is one of those drivers who deserves a more, although his career has been typified by tilting at windmills, and maybe JLOC is a continuance of that.

nobster · 1 Jul 2009, 05:50 (Ref:2494280)

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Originally Posted by Stranger

Future? He is 43...

Does that mean he too old to drive the coming years? 43 is not too bad considering the age of some fellow competitors.

MJ_N_09 · 1 Jul 2009, 09:37 (Ref:2494354)

Are there at least any pics of how the JLOC car looks?

LC2guy · 1 Jul 2009, 11:55 (Ref:2494437)

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Originally Posted by MJ_N_09

Are there at least any pics of how the JLOC car looks?

http://www.****cars.de/wp-content/20...0709260134.jpg

Tim the Grey · 1 Jul 2009, 12:52 (Ref:2494463)

The JLOC were garaged next to the JMW Dunlop Ferrari. I was joking with teh guys that they could expect a clear exit from their pit by the end of the first stint. I didn't expect it to be one LAP!

I have a picture of it on the puta at home, but not here.

kdr · 1 Jul 2009, 22:53 (Ref:2494778)

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Originally Posted by MJ_N_09

Are there at least any pics of how the JLOC car looks?

know what we photographed practice, quali and race, and between me and the other guy we shot over 10,000 frames...and i can't actually recall seeing the car other than lined up on the grid.

rich07 · 2 Jul 2009, 04:02 (Ref:2494838)

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Originally Posted by MJ_N_09

Are there at least any pics of how the JLOC car looks?

The ACO website has a gallery.

http://www.lemans.org/24heuresdumans...photos_gb.html

From the link click on the 'all the teams' tab and scroll down to JLOC.

dxk1 · 2 Jul 2009, 12:30 (Ref:2495008)

Quote:

Originally Posted by rich07

The ACO website has a gallery.

http://www.lemans.org/24heuresdumans...photos_gb.html

From the link click on the 'all the teams' tab and scroll down to JLOC.

Well surprise - surprise, it actually was there!! I really feel bad for all the drivers, they can't have known this would be such a joke entry! Or could they?

DK

Fab · 2 Jul 2009, 19:29 (Ref:2495171)

Quoting (more or less) RLM, the team was "laughing and slapping themselves in the back" at 3.15pm after the lap of the shame...

leading Paul Thruswell to say "shock horror"...

cmk · 2 Jul 2009, 21:36 (Ref:2495226)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fab

Quoting (more or less) RLM, the team was "laughing and slapping themselves in the back" at 3.15pm after the lap of the shame...

leading Paul Thruswell to say "shock horror"...

I suspect, given it was the T2M folks who got screwed over that were running the car, that it was rather more sarcastic and mirthful a celebration than it at first appeared. They were told they'd be running a racecar and ended up fielding a turd.

MJ_N_09 · 2 Jul 2009, 21:52 (Ref:2495230)

Looking at the car.....it does look like they did a very good job making it look legit from afar. Upon closer look however, the side windows do not have the slots other race cars do. This is a big red flag to me.

Also, the back of the car does have the correct wing and diffuser, but the lights look like they've been changed, and the exhaust tips look like they're off a diablo.

The biggest tell-tale sigh to me may be the silver on the car. It looks pretty and stylish, but is this also from a road car??

It honestly looks like someone's car had to be scrapped to rebuild this junk. They should've checked the carfax on it.

Graham Goodwin · 2 Jul 2009, 22:32 (Ref:2495245)

Bear in mind that the car was scrutineered

MJ_N_09 · 3 Jul 2009, 00:11 (Ref:2495263)

Well, If thats the case, LAA will be back with a vette that's half a road car...

Tim the Grey · 6 Oct 2009, 09:25 (Ref:2555027)

For those who may not have seen it before, here is JLOC actually moving, on track...

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