BMW's 902BHP 2002 engine

Sodemo2 · 4 Oct 2001, 14:57 (Ref:155821)

I see that Marc Gene has tested the new 900+ BHP BMW powerplant, he and Montoya said that it improves everything, drivability, powerband etc.

I hear that they have 905BHP for qualifying.

With 900BHP arriving what will the FIA say?

Powered by JPM · 4 Oct 2001, 17:11 (Ref:155872)

how about making the present engine more reliable???
Ralf didnt test it?? oh wait...he would probably want to "save" it since its new.

Speed · 4 Oct 2001, 17:21 (Ref:155874)

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Originally posted by Powered by JPM
oh wait...he would probably want to "save" it since its new.

Number Juan · 4 Oct 2001, 17:57 (Ref:155886)

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Originally posted by Powered by JPM
how about making the present engine more reliable???
Ralf didnt test it?? oh wait...he would probably want to "save" it since its new.

:laugh

Inigo Montoya · 4 Oct 2001, 18:19 (Ref:155891)

Ralf - 48 points
JPM - 25 points

Hmmmm.

Number Juan · 4 Oct 2001, 18:38 (Ref:155901)

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Originally posted by Inigo Montoya
Ralf - 48 points
JPM - 25 points

Hmmmm.

well they DID give ralf the new chassis in spa.....

**Bononi** · 4 Oct 2001, 19:24 (Ref:155929)

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Originally posted by Inigo Montoya
Ralf - 48 points
JPM - 25 points

Hmmmm.

Hmmmm Hmmmm

facco · 4 Oct 2001, 19:53 (Ref:155937)

good one Powered by JPM.

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Originally posted by Inigo Montoya
Ralf - 48 points
JPM - 25 points

Hmmmm.

yup,
48 points after 5 years in the category.
25 points, in his rookie season having 11 dnf's. (10 reckon as team failure)

Inigo Montoya · 4 Oct 2001, 20:04 (Ref:155946)

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Originally posted by facco

good one Powered by JPM.

yup,
48 points after 5 years in the category.
25 points, in his rookie season having 11 dnf's. (10 reckon as team failure)

This has been done to death, but to continue...

yup, 48 points in his first year with a half-decent car
25 points in his first year with a half-decent car

But pleaaaaase, lets not get into an argument about this... They are both good..... there, I said it

**Bononi** · 4 Oct 2001, 22:01 (Ref:156027)

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Originally posted by Inigo Montoya
But pleaaaaase, lets not get into an argument about this... They are both good..... there, I said it

Good one, Inigo, both are future champions...

* Look around carefully to see if AMoffat is coming in the room !*

facco · 4 Oct 2001, 22:21 (Ref:156034)

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Originally posted by Inigo Montoya

This has been done to death, but to continue...

yup, 48 points in his first year with a half-decent car
25 points in his first year with a half-decent car

But pleaaaaase, lets not get into an argument about this... They are both good..... there, I said it

Ok, let's bury the hatchet.
Both are good, but as many of you know I DO support JPM over rALF.

Alan Jones · 4 Oct 2001, 22:25 (Ref:156039)

Dear Bon,
as Moffie is currently in bathurst he asked me to look after situations like this

Ralfabating will not be tolerated in this forum anymore.

he is a spent force with his best years already behind him. C'mon Bon, you have seen the light and the chosen ones name is Juan.

he does get 1st prize though for pulling the most pitiful face of the season after Juan's victory.

facco · 4 Oct 2001, 22:55 (Ref:156047)

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Originally posted by AlanJones
Dear Bon,
as Moffie is currently in bathurst he asked me to look after situations like this

Ralfabating will not be tolerated in this forum anymore.

he is a spent force with his best years already behind him. C'mon Bon, you have seen the light and the chosen ones name is Juan.

he does get 1st prize though for pulling the most pitiful face of the season after Juan's victory.

you guys rock!!!!

**Bononi** · 4 Oct 2001, 23:54 (Ref:156078)

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Originally posted by AlanJones
C'mon Bon, you have seen the light and the chosen ones name is Juan.

Sure Alan, soulman... and the enlightenment I saw gives 5 WDC to JPM and at least 1 to Ralfie... don't be so greedy !!

Inigo Montoya · 4 Oct 2001, 23:56 (Ref:156079)

Quote:

Originally posted by AlanJones

Ralfabating will not be tolerated in this forum anymore.

Oh lord, I'd hate to think what you'd call it when Massa enters F1 and everyone jumps on the bandwagon...

I Ate Yoko Ono · 4 Oct 2001, 23:59 (Ref:156082)

Originally posted by Bononi

"Good one, Inigo, both are future champions..."

Yes they are - JPM several times in F1, RS in touring cars in about ten years time when he has given up vain attempts to outperform his more talented teammate...

Alan Jones · 5 Oct 2001, 00:06 (Ref:156085)

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Originally posted by I Ate Yoko Ono
Originally posted by Bononi

"Good one, Inigo, both are future champions..."

Yes they are - JPM several times in F1, RS in touring cars in about ten years time when he has given up vain attempts to outperform his more talented teammate...

YOKO EATER,

we agree again.

What is the world coming too huh?

Nice comment there Inigo

f1manoz · 5 Oct 2001, 00:08 (Ref:156087)

Back to the topic at hand, BMW have a reputation for producing powerful engines, so them producing something with 900BHP is no real surprise.

But I'd agree with previous statements that although they're producing this powerful engines, will it be reliable enough? Sure, this years engine has been powerful too, but reliability has been pitiful.

As for the FIA, well they can't very well ban it can they? The engine is following all the rules and guidelines (well, from what we can tell.)

ljakse · 5 Oct 2001, 00:11 (Ref:156090)

f1man !
this thread has just become fun, don't spoil it

**Bononi** · 5 Oct 2001, 00:22 (Ref:156093)

Yeah, that could be ONO.

I see one of them, leaving Williams. It's clear that it will happen.

This one will certainly will be in another top team.

I think JPM will be great. But for the moment I can't discard Ralfie. It's non-sense doing that. Just remember his perfomance and we can see that.

I just hope this two guys give us a lot of joy, fighting each other.

The same as I enjoyed Piquet X Mansell, and for my pleasure, two drivers I like a lot, both were champions.

So let it loose, and enjoy the show !!!

**Bononi** · 5 Oct 2001, 00:30 (Ref:156095)

And before anyone say that I'm jumping on some particular driver's
bandwagon....

I'm a BMW fan, nothing else.

All my heroes are dead or retired... (it sounds like a movie)

ljakse · 5 Oct 2001, 00:34 (Ref:156096)

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Originally posted by Bononi

I'm a BMW fan, nothing else.

As I said to a friend of mine - it's like watching NBA and being just a NIKE fan.

**Bononi** · 5 Oct 2001, 00:40 (Ref:156097)

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Originally posted by ljakse

As I said to a friend of mine - it's like watching NBA and being just a NIKE fan.

And... ????

Oh Ok, you have been watching F1 for the last 6 years...

ljakse · 5 Oct 2001, 00:49 (Ref:156098)

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Originally posted by Bononi

And... ????

Oh Ok, you have been watching F1 for the last 6 years...

Actually, it's more like 16 - that's how far I can really remember some things in f1 - besides that I remember when I was veeery young watching TV while some funny things were running in circles, and even then it was interesting for me (at least, that's what my mum told me)

About Nike and BMW - for me, they are just EQUIPMENT, and it's team and driver what counts.

**Bononi** · 5 Oct 2001, 01:09 (Ref:156106)

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Originally posted by ljakse

Actually, it's more like 16 - that's how far I can really remember some things in f1

Ok, 30 years here...

Quote:

Originally posted by ljakse
About Nike and BMW - for me, they are just EQUIPMENT, and it's team and driver what counts.

That's Ok in your basketball game, but NOT in F1 !

Just check this thread and some others...

Formula One is about Teams, drivers, engines, and plus tracks, engineers and so on.

Take a look at Formula One forum...

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