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Old 28 Nov 2009, 19:31 (Ref:2590902)   #1
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Thanks for the pic Simon, blimey i was on 21 then!! its definetly about time the slick 50's where revamped again!, i have been involved in the slicks the supers and mod prods and the slicks where definetly the most enjoyable to watch!! I am currently doing a colabaration of my dads racing career and would love any thing you have on him? cheers Rob
I've raced in all 3 and enloyed them all, but Slick50 was definitely the most fun from inside the car aswell. Heavy cars (full interior), no lsd, Uniroyals, standard brakes and plenty of power was a good recipe
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Old 21 Nov 2009, 20:45 (Ref:2586620)   #2
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Mallory 95 the only time I took home a laurel, and only because I was the only class A car to finish! Made my son's day that did it was on his bedroom wall for months. The awesome Camaro of Ellis Bergman that was a beast for sure.
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Old 21 Nov 2009, 21:08 (Ref:2586635)   #3
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Mallory 95 the only time I took home a laurel, and only because I was the only class A car to finish! Made my son's day that did it was on his bedroom wall for months. The awesome Camaro of Ellis Bergman that was a beast for sure.
What ever happened to the Bergman Camaro Al?
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Old 21 Nov 2009, 21:21 (Ref:2586643)   #4
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He sold it to a guy who took it out with the ModProd boys and set about desimmating the field (literally) at Pembrey during his first race after brake problems in qually and starting from the back so he was barred from the club, I understand he went on to CSCC and was found to be drinking at a meeting so was told not to come back there as well and thats the last I heard.
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Old 24 Nov 2009, 14:29 (Ref:2588433)   #5
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Old 24 Nov 2009, 20:06 (Ref:2588617)   #6
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Yes I do, thats Phil Rowley's old car. We had many a ding dong battle, great bloke Phil he actually came up to me once and gave me some sponsorship after I lost an engine in appreciation for all I had done for the club and the championship.
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Old 24 Nov 2009, 21:26 (Ref:2588651)   #7
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I didnt realise Phil ever raced a Monza Al. Is that a recent picture of that car.
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Old 24 Nov 2009, 21:33 (Ref:2588657)   #8
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Yes he had it before the Starion, he had a full throttle body engine managment system fitted by Tom Laffey, still had a problem catching the old Chevy though. Don't know where it ended up though. CIS is Phil's company.
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Old 24 Nov 2009, 23:04 (Ref:2588712)   #9
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Yes I do, thats Phil Rowley's old car. We had many a ding dong battle, great bloke Phil he actually came up to me once and gave me some sponsorship after I lost an engine in appreciation for all I had done for the club and the championship.
Thats as much as I know about the car , that Phil raced it


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I didnt realise Phil ever raced a Monza Al. Is that a recent picture of that car.
Its actually a Vauxhall Royale Coupe not a Monza , pic is about 4 year old


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Yes he had it before the Starion, he had a full throttle body engine managment system fitted by Tom Laffey, still had a problem catching the old Chevy though. Don't know where it ended up though. CIS is Phil's company.

I know where it is and see it daily , I had it for about 5 year now , its down in my workshop and next on the list to start work on and get road legal , been waiting for its 30 th birthday , which was last month , here is Co Donegal Ireland


Have been in touch with Phil some while ago about a breif history of the car but its before and after he owned it that is blank
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Old 25 Nov 2009, 08:58 (Ref:2588898)   #10
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Hey dont make it a road car get it back out in our Classic Thunder series! Some of the vinyl graphics on the car probably came from my workshop here. It was always entered as a Monza and I think I spy an Opel badge on the grill, in any case they are the same car to all intents. Phil never got to grips with the Starion and I have fond memories of tracking him through corners just close enough so he would inevitable get into the turbo too soon and spin the back out although I over egged it once at Brands and we both ended up in the kitty litter at the hairpin as we both went in in unison for a perfect 10/10.
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Old 25 Nov 2009, 17:36 (Ref:2589113)   #11
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Hey dont make it a road car get it back out in our Classic Thunder series! Some of the vinyl graphics on the car probably came from my workshop here. It was always entered as a Monza and I think I spy an Opel badge on the grill, in any case they are the same car to all intents. Phil never got to grips with the Starion and I have fond memories of tracking him through corners just close enough so he would inevitable get into the turbo too soon and spin the back out although I over egged it once at Brands and we both ended up in the kitty litter at the hairpin as we both went in in unison for a perfect 10/10.


Definition of road legal is slightly different here , as its 30 yr old now its classed as Vintage and is test excempt , so can get away with a little bit more .Wish I could afford to ship it back and forth for the classic thunder series I understand what you mean about the opel badging , same on the boot spoiler , but I have the logbook for it and it is on that as a Royale coupe , was still in the name of the original owner from new , Filmer Graphics in Luton , so I am the 2nd registered owner , will be on irish plates in the next week or so
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Just do a good number on it then BTW I dont think thats the first time that car has been to the Emerald Isle as I am reasonably sure Phil raced it when the club went to Mondello Park, I have an Irish TV video hear somewhere.
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Old 25 Nov 2009, 22:44 (Ref:2589270)   #13
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Just do a good number on it then BTW I dont think thats the first time that car has been to the Emerald Isle as I am reasonably sure Phil raced it when the club went to Mondello Park, I have an Irish TV video hear somewhere.


Gonna try and keep it as original as possible , especially on the outside , inside have fitted new seats and a dash to hide the wiring and house the gauges etc , still has the alloy roll cage in it , when it gets to paint might see if Phil will allow me to redo the graphics as was in the pics
Have trawled the internet and not found anything to do with the Monza until I came across this thread
Any info , pics or anything to do with the Monza will be greatly appreciated
Whereabouts of the original engine would be a miracle


Sorry for hijacking the thread but last progress on its history for my interest

What year was it at Mondello Park
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Old 25 Nov 2009, 23:22 (Ref:2589290)   #14
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Also regarding same picture from Alan on page 5 his blue Camaro might be followed by David Leslie's white and green Rover SD1 the first 4.5L planar cranked Rover V8 I'd "met"
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Old 25 Nov 2009, 23:33 (Ref:2589296)   #15
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I have a picture of the Monza chasing me at Oulton Park I will post it when I dig it out, I raced a Monza myself albiet very briefly but it was nothing like that one, it was an American Monza Spyder V8 based on the Vega chassis. The Irish trip mwould have been early 90's I will ask Adrian Fuller as he went and should know as he keeps notes unlike me.

No that is Dick Whittington's Escort and Gerry Cain in Dave Tetley's old white and green Rover, Ray Webb who married Tom Wheatcroft's daughter (I attended the reception) is in the black and red SD1 and he was the man who was playing around with the flat plane cranks but it seemed to make the car unreliable. BTW my Camaro was the white one, Ellis Bergman was the driver of the blue one.
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No that is Dick Whittington's Escort and Gerry Cain in Dave Tetley's old white and green Rover, Ray Webb who married Tom Wheatcroft's daughter (I attended the reception) is in the black and red SD1 and he was the man who was playing around with the flat plane cranks but it seemed to make the car unreliable. BTW my Camaro was the white one, Ellis Bergman was the driver of the blue one.
I knew Ray well and spent weeks in his garages in Leicester and Fleckney looking after my own road going SD1 and that of Paul Gerrado's 3.9 racer that was an old white car with more flex than a Maxi! I drilled through the NSF wing wiring loom and almost set fire to it in Fleckney!
I was sure that Dave had a planar 4.5 Rovercraft engine done by Simon Law


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Old 25 Nov 2009, 23:45 (Ref:2589304)   #17
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Jon Owen in Toyota Corolla at a foggy Silverstone in March 1989 Budget Rent-a-car series. The 1st I'm not so sure about:-







The last is of the similar but vastly superior corolla of Terry Stone.
Terry ran a garage in Leeds I think and was killed in an accident while cutting pipes down in the garage that swept his ladder away.
Great driver who spend most his time looking out of the side windows!

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Old 25 Nov 2009, 23:55 (Ref:2589309)   #18
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Jon Owen again, this time in Falken but same car
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Old 25 Nov 2009, 23:56 (Ref:2589312)   #19
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Yeah Terry was a nice bloke that was a bloody tragedy. Oddly enough he nearly came to grief a short while before that, he had a quad bike and took his daughter for a ride around Mallory Park after dark but forgot that they strung a chain across the track to stop such acts, any how he came barrelling around and got garrotted by the chain and threw him and his daughter off the quad.
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No it definitely was not a flat plane engine, Gerry was offered one by Ray some while later but didnt want it.
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No it definitely was not a flat plane engine, Gerry was offered one by Ray some while later but didnt want it.
I can definetely say there where no flat plane cranks leave rovertec/v8developments, ray has still got the cranks now!!
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I'd forgotten about the quad bike.
He and his family were family where very kind to Jon and myself when we were just starting out making fools of ourselves!



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Yes thats right, and the Maestro Turbo of Colin Crump I think that ended up on its roof on the catch fencing opposite the pits at Mallory in the most spectacular roll i have ever seen, the car must have been ten foot in the air at one stage.
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It was to be in a loan engine as I understand, may be wrong it was eons ago, not just the crank, I should have made that clear.
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Thats why the club needs the cc checker I keep banging on about Dave, if its OK for Masters its OK for us, coming to the AGM tomorrow?
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