'10 LMS Round 1 • Castellet • April 9-11 - Page 19

Dario911 · 11 Apr 2010, 14:11 (Ref:2670751)

Bad sign for Pug. 908s are running since 2007 and they've many troubles to solve, yet.
Pug is fast, but not so reliable as they would like be.

19dodge · 11 Apr 2010, 14:14 (Ref:2670753)

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Originally Posted by 911targa

so no wonder that#44 lizard win Xchallenge at Sebring.great cars they made

Lizards also run on E85 in ALMS, which gives them a big boost in Michelin Green X Challenge. E85 obviously is not allowed in LMS..

Taxi645 · 11 Apr 2010, 14:14 (Ref:2670755)

To me endurance racing doesn't get much better than we're seeing now in GT2, except for having multiple entries for the Spyker, M3 and Vantage to make the fight for the podium even more interesting.

ianroke · 11 Apr 2010, 14:16 (Ref:2670756)

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Originally Posted by Dario911

Bad sign for Pug. 908s are running since 2007 and they've many troubles to solve, yet.
Pug is fast, but not so reliable as they would like be.

Olivier Panis said it was a leak. Can anybody expand on that?

Tom87 · 11 Apr 2010, 14:17 (Ref:2670758)

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Originally Posted by Dario911

Bad sign for Pug. 908s are running since 2007 and they've many troubles to solve, yet.
Pug is fast, but not so reliable as they would like be.

I would imagine that their new car will be a fresh sheet of paper - whatever their design process was/is it needs a rethink given that Audi have had simply shown up with a new car and are not only faster over a stint but far more reliable.

Admittedly the factory 908's have gone better in recent races, but with number of races and tests under their belts they ought to be bullet proof by now!

Taxi645 · 11 Apr 2010, 14:19 (Ref:2670760)

Seems to me that the Ferrari teams underestimated the efficiency advantage of the Porsche and pushed their cars insufficiently at the start of the race to built enough of a gap to compensate for the pit stop disadvantage.

In the mean time Tom Coronel reported some rain drops.

Victor_RO · 11 Apr 2010, 14:22 (Ref:2670764)

Melo stopped!!!!!!

NightStalk3r · 11 Apr 2010, 14:22 (Ref:2670765)

MELO HAS STOPPED ON TRACK!

tux1234 · 11 Apr 2010, 14:22 (Ref:2670766)

Lmao and Arakis you were saying?.......

Dario911 · 11 Apr 2010, 14:22 (Ref:2670767)

Porsche #77 is again in first place. How long will be their stint? They've stopped for the 4th time not so much time ago, if I'm not wrong. I was not at my notebook...

Victor_RO · 11 Apr 2010, 14:23 (Ref:2670768)

Somebody did say there would be another Ferrari coming back to the pits on a flat-bed. Well, it's likely that... here it is.

Duct tape broken out for loose bodywork on #5.

CTD · 11 Apr 2010, 14:23 (Ref:2670769)

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Originally Posted by Dario911

Bad sign for Pug. 908s are running since 2007 and they've many troubles to solve, yet.
Pug is fast, but not so reliable as they would like be.

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Originally Posted by Tom87

I would imagine that their new car will be a fresh sheet of paper - whatever their design process was/is it needs a rethink given that Audi have had simply shown up with a new car and are not only faster over a stint but far more reliable.

Admittedly the factory 908's have gone better in recent races, but with number of races and tests under their belts they ought to be bullet proof by now!

Last year the 908 ran beautifully!
These issues could very well be a result of a new team handling the car, instead of Peugeot Sport who knows the car inside out!

NightStalk3r · 11 Apr 2010, 14:23 (Ref:2670770)

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Originally Posted by Victor_RO

Somebody did say there would be another Ferrari coming back to the pits on a flat-bed. Well, it's likely that... here it is.

It was me and i said in that same post that it would be the 95 or 96

tux1234 · 11 Apr 2010, 14:25 (Ref:2670771)

Amrteams on Twitter say a few rain drops have started to fall

NightStalk3r · 11 Apr 2010, 14:26 (Ref:2670774)

Come on Pat, get that 88 on the podium!!

Tom87 · 11 Apr 2010, 14:26 (Ref:2670775)

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Originally Posted by NightStalk3r

It was me and i said in that same post that it would be the 95 or 96

Well that somewhat spoils the prospect of a tight race as I don't think the #95 is quite as sorted as its sister car. High attrition in GT2 this time out - 8 out of 13 cars either retired or out of contention.

ianroke · 11 Apr 2010, 14:27 (Ref:2670776)

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Originally Posted by Tom87

I would imagine that their new car will be a fresh sheet of paper - whatever their design process was/is it needs a rethink given that Audi have had simply shown up with a new car and are not only faster over a stint but far more reliable.

Admittedly the factory 908's have gone better in recent races, but with number of races and tests under their belts they ought to be bullet proof by now!

Is their 2010 spec car totally new? It looks the same to me. Very reliable and fast at Sebring however the Drayson Lola was hounding them at the start. Low fuel/slow start for the Peugeot?

Dario911 · 11 Apr 2010, 14:27 (Ref:2670777)

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Originally Posted by CTD

Last year the 908 ran beautifully!
These issues could very well be a result of a new team handling the car, instead of Peugeot Sport who knows the car inside out!

Yes, of course you're right. But Pug has often shown some reliability troubles in this years. More than Audi...

Dario911 · 11 Apr 2010, 14:28 (Ref:2670778)

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Originally Posted by ianroke

Is their 2010 spec car totally new? It looks the same to me. Very reliable and fast at Sebring however the Drayson Lola was hounding them at the start. Low fuel/slow start for the Peugeot?

Quite the same 09 car. Few developments. In Sebring Audi was not there to push Pug...

NightStalk3r · 11 Apr 2010, 14:29 (Ref:2670779)

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Originally Posted by Tom87

Well that somewhat spoils the prospect of a tight race as I don't think the #95 is quite as sorted as its sister car. High attrition in GT2 this time out - 8 out of 13 cars either retired or out of contention.

Fisi and Alesi have been consistently in the 2:00's there pretty sorted strait out of the box.

Tom87 · 11 Apr 2010, 14:31 (Ref:2670781)

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Originally Posted by ianroke

Is their 2010 spec car totally new? It looks the same to me. Very reliable and fast at Sebring however the Drayson Lola was hounding them at the start. Low fuel/slow start for the Peugeot?

I meant the 2011 car.

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Originally Posted by CTD

Last year the 908 ran beautifully!
These issues could very well be a result of a new team handling the car, instead of Peugeot Sport who knows the car inside out!

Well thats what I said - the last few races (how many outings did the 908 have in '09?). Before that ('07 & '08) they had two full seasons of racing are were still losing races due to unreliability - clearly the new car is going to need to be better screwed together straight from the first race.

Taxi645 · 11 Apr 2010, 14:31 (Ref:2670782)

If rain would come, pit timing might mix the GT2 fight up yet again. Bleekemolen back in the Spyker.

Victor_RO · 11 Apr 2010, 14:31 (Ref:2670783)

#96 officially retired. Patrick Long in the #88 up to 3rd.

NightStalk3r · 11 Apr 2010, 14:32 (Ref:2670785)

I think i will take that boot out of arakis's mouth now and let him say a few words on Ferrari reliability.

Tom87 · 11 Apr 2010, 14:32 (Ref:2670786)

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Originally Posted by NightStalk3r

Fisi and Alesi have been consistently in the 2:00's there pretty sorted strait out of the box.

Doesn't look enough to catch the #77 though, unless it has more problems.

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