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Old 28 Feb 2008, 09:04 (Ref:2139952)   #26
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If more banking and no restrictor plates at California were put in place the cars would probably be going too fast for Nascar's liking anyway.... they're going almost over 200mph with the banking they have now aren't they??

Seems like I'm the only person on this site who likes the Pocono track

And what is the difference between California and Michigan that makes the Michigan race more exciting???

The back stretch is higher up one one of them I thought, turns out the banking is shallower on California too.

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Old 28 Feb 2008, 15:58 (Ref:2140171)   #27
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Fontana as a plate race would blow chunks, imo. I say, replace it's Feb date at Mexico City. Also, we need more short tracks, imo. Iowa Speedway would be perfect.
I've heard that the combined East/West series race at Iowa made some great racing while the IRL race was a procession. It should certainly have a Nationwide series race at least.
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Old 28 Feb 2008, 17:24 (Ref:2140231)   #28
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I've heard that the combined East/West series race at Iowa made some great racing while the IRL race was a procession. It should certainly have a Nationwide series race at least.
I agree. Iowa seems to be a cool track....totally a stockcar track and not indy car.
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Old 28 Feb 2008, 17:27 (Ref:2140235)   #29
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It also has the greatest camera of all time, in the track surface. I saw it in the 2006 ARCA race and I was .

Daytona cameras this year were good, but a pale imitation when it boils down to it.
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Old 28 Feb 2008, 17:28 (Ref:2140236)   #30
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I'd like to see all the tracks longer than 2 miles other than Pocono (as it's so interesting) scrapped (apart from Daytona and Talladega which can go down to one date) and replace them with road courses and short ovals. All those in favour of NASCAR going to another half miler say aye ...
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Old 28 Feb 2008, 17:44 (Ref:2140241)   #31
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I'd like to see all the tracks longer than 2 miles other than Pocono (as it's so interesting) scrapped (apart from Daytona and Talladega which can go down to one date) and replace them with road courses and short ovals. All those in favour of NASCAR going to another half miler say aye ...
i'd like to see more 1/2 mile tracks and road courses, but i also want want tracks that have high speeds and good racing.

they will never race only once/year at Talladega or Daytona. NEVER.

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Old 28 Feb 2008, 20:06 (Ref:2140306)   #32
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http://www.restrictorplatethis.com/s.../27/141325/283
This makes a good point regarding Nascar and California.
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Old 28 Feb 2008, 21:54 (Ref:2140400)   #33
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i'd like to see more 1/2 mile tracks and road courses, but i also want want tracks that have high speeds and good racing.

they will never race only once/year at Talladega or Daytona. NEVER.
I'd love to see more road course races added to the schedule.
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This makes a good point regarding Nascar and California.
diecast dude (author of story) needs to remember that Californians took away Riverside and Ontario Speedways. nobody would have to convince NASCAR to stay in SoCal if those tracks were still around. And would disagree with his/her account of "good racing" on Monday there. it was better than before the COT.

to fix Fontana and all other boring, smooth D-shaped ovals---Graduated Banking. or go back to REAL tracks and let the IRL race there.

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More road courses and short-tracks would be great from my POV.

I would also love to see a bit of dirt racing brought into it.
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More road courses and short-tracks would be great from my POV.

I would also love to see a bit of dirt racing brought into it.
Hmmm, DuQuoin anyone?
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This makes a good point regarding Nascar and California.
What it doesn't give is a good reason not to have high banking a restrictor plate racing!
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Seems like I'm the only person on this site who likes the Pocono track
I also like Pocono and hope they keep both dates. It is a unique track and gives us a big break from the cookie cutters. I would however like to see both race run at 400 miles each.

The new 2005 gear rule, which forces teams to use a predetermined gear ratio at each track on the circuit has, IMO, taken away some of the unique skill required at the track. The new ratio NASCAR gave at Pocono meant that everyone would have the same rate of acceleration, and also not require them to shift at several places around the race track, as you would no longer be able to gain an advantage on your competitors. It was fun in the past watching drivers like Rusty who was great at shifting.
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i love pocono
flat and those wacky turns, the gear idea yes i think has ruined the track but racing has always been good there and fast.
but only one date is needed at any of these tracks i think- there are too many good venues to keep pounding the same ones...why not update nazareth? and go there? (indycars could use it too)
is the track still aroound
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why not update nazareth? and go there? (indycars could use it too)
is the track still aroound
WOW. glad you asked that question cause i had no idea:

"As of May 2007, the grandstands, signage and all visible structures at the racetrack have been removed. The disassembled grandstands were transported to the Watkins Glen track. The track remains fenced off and access to any part of the track or land surrounding it is restricted.....Rumors circulating around the speedway's replacement have included topics as housing complexes, or an also rumored sports arena."

From Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazareth_Speedway

that's a shame...very much like Phoenix; never been a fan of that track either. they raced some Sportsman & Truck Series races there. more of an indy track...but a different venue that would lend to decent racing.
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What has happened to Nazareth is very sad. It was a beautiful track in a very beautiful area. It provided great racing with it's odd shape, elevations and narrow width. The old Busch series and CTS series ran some great races there. On the minus side it was only accessible by way of a two-lane country road. Getting in and out was a nightmare.
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I also like Pocono and hope they keep both dates. It is a unique track and gives us a big break from the cookie cutters. I would however like to see both race run at 400 miles each.

The new 2005 gear rule, which forces teams to use a predetermined gear ratio at each track on the circuit has, IMO, taken away some of the unique skill required at the track. The new ratio NASCAR gave at Pocono meant that everyone would have the same rate of acceleration, and also not require them to shift at several places around the race track, as you would no longer be able to gain an advantage on your competitors. It was fun in the past watching drivers like Rusty who was great at shifting.
I have to agree on the gear rule and it's relation to driver skill. 400 miles at Pocono would be plenty.
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