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7 May 2018, 12:10 (Ref:3820580) | #1 | ||
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That fuel use thing is kind of ridiculous. How can they be expected to guess? Especially if the FIA knows what they are actually using.
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7 May 2018, 21:15 (Ref:3820658) | #2 | |
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I think it's ridiculous to blame the rule makers for this. If Toyota has software to use that shows them that information, what is stopping teams like Rebellion? If they are being denied then that is a different story. But that wouldn't make sense seeing as Toyota has it and Porsche had it too.
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7 May 2018, 21:26 (Ref:3820663) | #3 | ||
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Fair point
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I agree with you on this one, it is a ridiculous situation. I'm wondering if this is an oversight by the privateers, or if the necessary software is simply not available to buy off the shelf. It's a seriously bizarre situation, when fuel usage is fundamental to them racing within the rules. It could simply be down to money, but I doubt it somehow, when the teams are already throwing millions into their programmes. Having to resort to guesswork is 100% ridiculous.
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8 May 2018, 11:30 (Ref:3820776) | #7 | ||
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Fuel usage and fuel flow have been set not according to each other and hence the issue. They (or their engine management supplier) can surely develop a system to coast automatically, but it needs time and this change was proposed by the Aco a few days before Spa. Such a system need to be designed, developed and tested....hence time and money that were not planned initially...hence issues. To be honest i see their point very well. |
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So not an oversight, nor (in all probability) money, simply that such a system does not, as yet, exist for privateers. |
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8 May 2018, 14:28 (Ref:3820808) | #9 | |
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This is not true. EoT values were last adjusted on April 16th. Before that they were set before the Prologue. I don't know where people get this wrong idea from, but please get the facts straight.
I do not believe for a second it came as a surprise to a team like Rebellion that they would have to run to a fuel number at Spa. I can believe howerver not being able to develop a fuel flow regulation system in time because of how late the programme for this year came together. So it's a problem solved by time. |
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It would be a short time even with both cars fully operational. Also considering how few km testing Rebellion did before the race and the performance they had, i think they did an amazing job, but this is OT. Nobody, with all the complications that come before the first race of the season would be able to test and develop such a system in two weeks. Testing, in particular, is of course out of questions and it is really no option to test such a system in a race weekend. If FIA/ACO don't understand this, then they should do something else, not trying to be a governing body. My opinion, anyway, is that they simply don't care, because they HAVE TO MAKE TOYOTA WIN LE MANS, for their future interests. But this is again OT. Plus, even if you know that a change could come, you don't start investing money, time and headcounts in developing such a system before the rules don't say explicitly that you need one. It would make NO SENSE from a business perspective and no company would do it. It would simply be a waste of money and time. Also because, knowing ACO, it could well happen that they change their mind again and again and again and again... |
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9 May 2018, 14:46 (Ref:3821049) | #12 | |
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Again, you read wrong. The latest adjustment to the numbers was on the 16th of April. The fact that the privateer cars would have to run to a fuel number was known the very first time the new regulations and stated EoT goals were outlined. Again, that last adjustment was a tweak to the numbers, not a fundamental change in the regulations. Please get this right, it invalidates the entire rest of your post.
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